Rob R. wrote:
coalder wrote:I just found it funny because so many people have told her its too small a caliber for deer when she first started. In the past 15yrs I bet she has 30 kills at least.
You can easily kill a whitetail with a .22 if the shot is placed correctly. My mom used to hunt with a .243, it gets the job done on whitetail...but like I said before, they tend to run quite a bit farther when things aren't ideal. That was never a problem when hunting on our own land, or on a large piece of property that we had permission to hunt on...but it really sucks when your prize buck runs over on the neighbors land who is totally opposed to hunting.
He showed me two photos of two grizzly's he took with that gun. Both neck shots. However please don't ever underestimate the .243 and or marksmanship.
There is a big difference between "killing" and "stopping". No one is under estimating shot placement, but I'd be surprised if you could find a guide in Alaska that would take you out with a .243. Same way in Newfoundland, many locals like to shoot moose in the head with a .30-30...but most guides won't take you out with one.
I am not trying to argue for big calibers, just saying you need to know what you are getting into before you buy something.
The newer ballistic tip hunting bullets have "tipped" the scales to help smaller calibers which for many shooters the light recoil makes them more accurate for the shooter. The .243 is one of those calibers that exhibits better than average accuracy.
Todays ballistic tip hunting bullets have reduced that hit and run problem of older ammo that doesn't expand as well thus causing as much internal damage that gets quicker kills.
With the doe my daughter just got, it was looking right at her. She put the Winchester 95 gr balletic tip up the doe's nose at 80 yards. The bullet never exited the doe's head. It explosively expended all it's energy inside the skull turning everything to mush, that was bleeding out of both ears, nostrils, and mouth. But not so much as a mark on the back of the skull.
None of my shotgun sabot slugs could match that quick a kill. And even with the best sabot slugs through my rifled slug barrels, that Savage .243 has far better accuracy.
I use 53 gr Hornady .223 ballistic tips on woodchucks and the terminal affects are devastating. What's left of the chucks is on a par with what only larger calibers used to be able to do to that sized critter.
My 12 and 20 ga slug guns can't equal the range, accuracy, and retained energy downrange of that little flat-shooting .243. Add to that the lethality of the new hunting ammo, at half the cost of deer slugs and it's a winning combo.
And that lower cost of ammo combined with less recoil equates to the shooter is more likely to spend time becoming proficient with that gun.
Bigger calibers used to be better for hunting, but that's no longer the case and the new .243s are proving to be one of those instances.