Dishwasher Install

Dishwasher Install

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:28 pm

So this week my 10+ year old dishwasher decided to start leaking. Not from the doorseal, somewhere under the tub. This is the third issue I have had with it in a year, so Happy New Year to me...a new one is coming tomorrow. Maybe this will be what finally gets the house to sell. :roll: Tonight I figured I would get a jumpstart on things and remove the old one...simple right?

Issue 1. Gate valve in dishwasher water supply is seized. :mad:
Solution: Gently turn handle with wrench and snap handle off. :shock:
Solution: Remove shards of handle, close valve with vice grips.

Issue 2. Upon removing the plastic hose from the dishwasher, I discover that the "closed" gate valve is still allowing water to leak by. :cry:
Solution: Quickly grab dish towels to stop flood, run into the basement and torque the valve a little more...stream slows to a steady drip.
Solution: Rip plastic hose out of copper fitting, place pail on basement to catch the drips overnight.

I did get the old dishwasher removed, but now I need to make a trip to the hardware door in the morning to get a 1/2" ball valve and a few other fittings to finish the job. In the meantime the pail is doing a fine job in the basement. I could stop the drips by shutting the hot water off to the entire house, but with a wife and two kids home I would rather let it drip.

Hopefully things go better in the morning.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy


Re: Dishwasher Install

PostBy: tsb On: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:34 pm

Plumbing, it's for when you think things can't suck any worse.
tsb
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Binford 2000
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Pioneer top vent
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Saey Hanover II
Baseburners & Antiques: Grander Golden Oak , Glenwood # 6
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Re: Dishwasher Install

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:38 pm

Every plumbing project I have done in this house has been complicated. By now I should know that the only approach is to plan going all the way back to the last pipe or valve that I have personally replaced.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Dishwasher Install

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:46 pm

Plumbing is almost always an issue, especially with the quality of valves today. Years ago I used to visit my parents in Florida, I always said we only do plumbing on the first week of my two week vacation :mad:
2001Sierra
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90 Chimney vent
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Buderus Oil Boiler 3115-34
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker 90 Chimney Vent

Re: Dishwasher Install

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:11 am

Looks like all the issues are solved ! [I'm re-doing a bathroom now...almost done! A 3 mo project].

I replaced my dishwasher's motor assembly a few years ago after a leak ... been running fine since.

My clothes washer motor I changed about 1 yr ago .... been running fine since.

Plumbing is a breeze now that I got the sharkbite tools. Why is it I always was trying to solder near a leaky value, causing soldering to be next to impossible. Sharkbite that thing ! They make values too .. more expensive but zip/zap/done.
davidmcbeth3
 
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 503

Re: Dishwasher Install

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:22 am

Yeah, this isn't a great place to solder. Leaky valve, close to 100 yr old boards. I will see if the local hardware store has sharkbite fittings.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Dishwasher Install

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:36 am

Sharkbite solution.
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Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Dishwasher Install

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:38 am

Rob, I thoroughly understand your plight. My house was built right after the war, they even skipped installing underlayment boards and nailed the oak directly to the floor joists. Good luck, may the plumbing God's be with you!
EarthWindandFire
 
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Re: Dishwasher Install

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:46 am

Plumbing is done. That sharkbite fitting was perfect. Easy install, now I have a 1/4 turn shutoff and a new 60" braided stainless line going to the dishwasher. I am lucky to have a True Value hardware store 3 minutes away with a very competent manager.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Dishwasher Install

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:53 am

Shark bite fittings sure do make things easy,they do come with a high price tag tho. Rob , i didn't think you had any store or much civilization near you . I thought you were way out there in no mans land. :) New dishwasher with water line connected with modern shark bite fitting, try that line for selling your house . :)
windyhill4.2
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Dishwasher Install

PostBy: lzaharis On: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:30 am

AH yes that brings back memories,

I slapped that issue around using a washing machine hose.
lzaharis
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KAA-4-1 dual fuel boiler
Coal Size/Type: rice
Other Heating: kerosene for dual fuel Keystoker

Re: Dishwasher Install

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:23 pm

The install went very smoothly, and I am pleased with the results. The new unit is VERY quiet, and has some nice features. I think the shiny stainless makes the old cabinets look even older, but other than that all is well.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Dishwasher Install

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:56 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:Shark bite fittings sure do make things easy,they do come with a high price tag tho. Rob , i didn't think you had any store or much civilization near you . I thought you were way out there in no mans land. :) New dishwasher with water line connected with modern shark bite fitting, try that line for selling your house . :)


I have the best of both worlds. Not much other than apple trees for the first mile, but a few miles away we have a few local businesses that cover a lot of bases.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Dishwasher Install

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:08 pm

Rob R. wrote:
windyhill4.2 wrote:Shark bite fittings sure do make things easy,they do come with a high price tag tho. Rob , i didn't think you had any store or much civilization near you . I thought you were way out there in no mans land. :) New dishwasher with water line connected with modern shark bite fitting, try that line for selling your house . :)


I have the best of both worlds. Not much other than apple trees for the first mile, but a few miles away we have a few local businesses that cover a lot of bases.

Sounds like the ideal place to live..... which makes it that much sadder to have to move from there for a job. :(
windyhill4.2
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Dishwasher Install

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:20 pm

The town I have my eye on in VT is the same way. Dirt roads and maple trees, but only 10 minutes from everything we would need.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy