Some Supplemental and Visual Comfort

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Sun. Jan. 10, 2016 9:11 am

coal stoker wrote:Still figuring finances.
CS
You gotta do that too,so I am not alone ? :) Seems pretty simple to just look at the $475 for the stove....then there is the smoke stack issue,more $$$,good luck,hopefully it works for you to get a Chubby installed in that room.

 
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Post by coal stoker » Sun. Jan. 10, 2016 11:21 am

Thanks Windy,
I think this will be a next winter light off though, so I have time to do what I want and not rush to get it in.
CS

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Sun. Jan. 10, 2016 1:04 pm

coal stoker wrote:Thanks Windy,
I think this will be a next winter light off though, so I have time to do what I want and not rush to get it in.
CS
The suspense of waiting that long, :what: can you handle it ?? You will need to make a time each evening to watch the chubby video,that might help get you thru this waiting period. :)


 
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Post by CoalHeat » Sun. Jan. 10, 2016 3:21 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:
Wood'nCoal wrote:My pleasure!

Yeah, I can see there is money that needs spending! That's one of the reasons all my radiators except one are piled up out in the barn. :(
WnC, are we talking hundreds of $$ to set up 1 radiator or more $$.? Radiator,circulator,mixing valve,piping &t-stat ?
Depends! Lots of variables there, all about the installation. Anything here is difficult and costly, that's just the way it is.

Mixing valve? You mean a flow check??

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Sun. Jan. 10, 2016 3:44 pm

Wood'nCoal wrote:
Depends! Lots of variables there, all about the installation. Anything here is difficult and costly, that's just the way it is.

Mixing valve? You mean a flow check??
Nope,i mean a mixing valve... I think I am calling it by a wrong name,maybe ? If setup for constant circulation (constant radiant heat), this mixing valve or tempering valve (or whatever is the correctly recognized name for it) allows one to adjust the water temp going into the radiator. This will allow a similar warmth feeling like that of a handfed stove.

 
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Post by coal stoker » Sun. Jan. 10, 2016 3:45 pm

That's a good idea Windy,
Maybe a portable space heater next to my laptop, this way I can feel the heat from the chubby while I watch the video :D :D :D
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Post by CoalHeat » Sun. Jan. 10, 2016 3:56 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:
Wood'nCoal wrote:
Depends! Lots of variables there, all about the installation. Anything here is difficult and costly, that's just the way it is.

Mixing valve? You mean a flow check??
Nope,i mean a mixing valve... I think I am calling it by a wrong name,maybe ? If setup for constant circulation (constant radiant heat), this mixing valve or tempering valve (or whatever is the correctly recognized name for it) allows one to adjust the water temp going into the radiator. This will allow a similar warmth feeling like that of a handfed stove.
Ah!!! I forgot about running the circulator all the time! In my mind I'm thinking a thermostat controlling the zone, the thought of messing with a mixing valve and a motor running 24/7 eating up current is not appealing to me.

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Sun. Jan. 10, 2016 4:02 pm

Even 180* water going thru the radiator won't match the radiant warmth from a stove running at 450*,but the radiator would be much better than t-stat controlled on/off hot air.~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A Taco 007 uses the same electric as a 60 watt bulb,it could even be programmed to run only at the times when their are human bodies in the vicinity. I still like the stove idea best,but the radiator idea could be a logical choice if a chimney is just too much..... $$ or work or the dislike of looking at a chimney ?

 
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Post by 2001Sierra » Sun. Jan. 10, 2016 4:50 pm

I went from a hand fed hopper feed Buderus to Keystoker 90. Granted the Keystoker blows the doors off the old Buderus, 60K BTU's on a good day vs 90K BTU's all day. As far as ambiance the Keystoker is just all business. It has been great for us but I have done many things to reduce the noise of the business end. A hand fed is the only way to go for ambiance and being able to see the flames. Tough decision because of the cost of a proper "masonry" chimney.

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