Using a Magazine in a Glenwood #6

 
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Post by D.lapan » Thu. Feb. 11, 2016 4:58 pm

To the guys that have the mags, what is the od of the mag and did anyone make extras to sell? This intrigues me even know I don't have a 6 I know it was a option for my hickory

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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Feb. 11, 2016 6:29 pm

D.lapan wrote:To the guys that have the mags, what is the od of the mag and did anyone make extras to sell? This intrigues me even know I don't have a 6 I know it was a option for my hickory

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Post by PJT » Thu. Feb. 11, 2016 11:14 pm

D.lapan wrote:To the guys that have the mags, what is the od of the mag and did anyone make extras to sell? This intrigues me even know I don't have a 6 I know it was a option for my hickory

Dana
Are there any extra mags out there anyone wants to sell?


 
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Post by D.lapan » Fri. Feb. 12, 2016 5:43 pm

PJT wrote:
D.lapan wrote:To the guys that have the mags, what is the od of the mag and did anyone make extras to sell? This intrigues me even know I don't have a 6 I know it was a option for my hickory

Dana
Are there any extra mags out there anyone wants to sell?
Tomahawk foundry is the outfit that cast the new ones in going to call in the next week or 2 about getting one ill let you know

 
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Post by PJT » Fri. Feb. 12, 2016 9:01 pm

D.lapan wrote:Tomahawk foundry is the outfit that cast the new ones in going to call in the next week or 2 about getting one ill let you know
OK D.I pm me please

 
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Post by dlj » Sun. Feb. 14, 2016 9:38 am

Canaan coal man wrote:Hello to all the G6 owners. Im thinking about trying a magazine in my G6.
I wanted to ask guys that have used one. What are the pros and cons? Some time Ill come home late from work to a weak fire and was wondering if the mag would help with this. I understand that pre heated coal in the mag will need less to no baby sitting after a healthy shake down? Any input would be great.

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Brenden,

I've been using the magazine for two winters now. I don't take it out, don't see any need the way I run my stove. Like you, I also sometimes have to run the stove up around 600*F to keep the house up to temps. I do use the stove to heat my entire house. So now after the second year running with the magazine and having figured some of it's quirks out, I'll keep it in. It does make the shake down and reload process smoother as far as temps go. I don't see that it extends my burn times noticeably as prior to having the magazine. Before, I'd fill my stove higher with coal than I can with the magazine in place. Given that the width of the fire pot is much wider than the magazine, the added couple inches of coal that I could get in the stove is just about the same amount of coal that the magazine holds. The flip side to that, if I'm not actually looking to extend my burn times (my original desire when I got the magazine) but just run the same burn times, the magazine makes the shake and fill transition run very smoothly.

When I first got the magazine for this stove, I was dreaming I'd only have to tend the stove once a day. So I was pretty disappointed to find there was little difference in the burn times, maybe a tad longer with the magazine, but it certainly didn't turn the stove into a "once a day tend" instead of the twice a day currently. Having resigned myself to having to tend the same as before having the magazine, I now see that the tending is definitely easier. It is a bit of a pain to fill the stove from the top. I get coal dropping out and bouncing around my living room. Makes refill time more cleaning intensive. If you can still tend your stove twice a day, the magazine will help you keep the fire going well at re-filling. If you need to extend your burn times, you might get another hour, possibly two, but that's about it.

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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Feb. 14, 2016 9:57 am

Dave.
If I remember correctly from back shortly after you did that run of mags, didn't you mention that you had the top of the refractory liner much higher than the top of the firepot ? Therefor you could fill the pot to a higher level than a standard #6. And that by using the mag it lowered the coal level back to standard height ?

My measurements using nut coal show that the mag adds 20 pounds of coal to the 50 pounds that the #6 holds with the factory one inch thick firebrick lining. That's a 40% increase in coal. Had to imagine that would only add a couple more hours of run time ?

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Post by deepwoods » Sun. Feb. 14, 2016 12:01 pm

PJT wrote:
D.lapan wrote:Tomahawk foundry is the outfit that cast the new ones in going to call in the next week or 2 about getting one ill let you know
OK D.I pm me please
I called Tomahawk a short time ago inquiring about G6 magazines. He said he remembers making them but as of now has no pattern for making more. Bottom line, someone with a mag will need to lend it to Tomahawk so he can set up a pattern for making more. I am interested in a mag also. Possibly a group buy to help keep cost down? Any of the professional re-builders might care to have a few in stock? Also the person who provides the pattern mag should be reimbursed for his time and generosity.
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Post by dlj » Sun. Feb. 14, 2016 4:07 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:Dave.
If I remember correctly from back shortly after you did that run of mags, didn't you mention that you had the top of the refractory liner much higher than the top of the firepot ? Therefor you could fill the pot to a higher level than a standard #6. And that by using the mag it lowered the coal level back to standard height ?

My measurements using nut coal show that the mag adds 20 pounds of coal to the 50 pounds that the #6 holds with the factory one inch thick firebrick lining. That's a 40% increase in coal. Had to imagine that would only add a couple more hours of run time ?

Paul
Paul,

Some folk on here seem to think my refractory liner is higher than the standard #6. I believe you've said that to me a couple times. There may well be some others. But I'm not sure I agree with that. Looking at where my refractory is, it looks like it goes to where the top of my old cast iron ring used to sit. Before I had my magazine in, I'd heap the coal up such that it formed a cone with the outside edges dropping down to the top of my liner. That means the whole middle was a fair amount higher than the liner itself. That's quite a bit of coal. The magazine sits a couple inches above the top of my liner, so I can't pile the coal in as high as I could without it there. I'd guess about 2 inches lower from the top of the pile I used to be able to make. That's actually quite a bit of coal. Now I haven't weighed coal like you have, but I can tell you, when I fill the magazine and then go back in and spread out the coal under the magazine so it pretty much sits flat across the diameter the coal in the magazine drops a good 4 inches, maybe more, I'd have to measure it. So I figure I can get maybe another 10 pounds of coal in that stove over what I could get when I heaped it up before. So no, I'm not finding I get much longer run times with the magazine. But tending the same as I did before, I do get a much more stable fire over the time I do run between fills.

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Post by dlj » Sun. Feb. 14, 2016 4:14 pm

deepwoods wrote: I called Tomahawk a short time ago inquiring about G6 magazines. He said he remembers making them but as of now has no pattern for making more. Bottom line, someone with a mag will need to lend it to Tomahawk so he can set up a pattern for making more. I am interested in a mag also. Possibly a group buy to help keep cost down? Any of the professional re-builders might care to have a few in stock? Also the person who provides the pattern mag should be reimbursed for his time and generosity.
Dick
That was a one time deal. It is what it is.... As far as the professional re-builders wanting to have some in stock - when we did that deal, I actually contacted them directly off the board and they expressed no interest.

If you wanted to build a pattern, it would be easy enough. You could make up a pattern in wood, or whatever material you find best to work in, and just send it to the foundry. We've got all the dimensions. Talk to the foundry, find out what their shrink is, use the dimensions of the magazine and make the mold. It's just two halves that bolt together. It's a simple pattern.

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