New Guy With Harman Magnifire Elite Insert

Gunsnmopars · Post by **Gunsnmopars** » Sun. Jan. 24, 2016 12:07 pm

My jotul is 2 years old. My dealer wouldnt install without a liner so I may leave liner in for a year or 2 until im positive I like the harmsn which I know I will. Then pull it and do direct connect. I can only get about 2 hrs of a really hot fire going. I think theninsert is just a bad setup with intake air too. I am really excited to burn coal.

Gunsnmopars · Post by **Gunsnmopars** » Mon. Jan. 25, 2016 7:24 am

Well im picking Harman up friday. Guy told me fire brick are still white and liners clean and sent me picture of liner.

SWPaDon · Post by **SWPaDon** » Mon. Jan. 25, 2016 7:36 am

See that open area where the liner goes thru the fireplace damper? You need to block every bit of that at the fireplace damper, with a metal plate or rockwool or fiberglass insulation for your install. If you don't, all the heat from your stove will be up the chimney instead of in your house where you want it.

Gunsnmopars · Post by **Gunsnmopars** » Mon. Jan. 25, 2016 7:59 am

Yea my chimney has an 18 ga 316 stainless block off plate with 2 layers of roxul. I tend to over due metal projects being a sheetmetal worker. Now in my fire box would you guys reccomend I roxul inbetween bricks and insert?

SWPaDon · Post by **SWPaDon** » Mon. Jan. 25, 2016 8:06 am

Wouldn't that cause the outside of the insert to retain heat and possibly warp the sides of it?

Keepaeyeonit · Post by **Keepaeyeonit** » Mon. Jan. 25, 2016 8:49 am

Do not insulate around the insert, as SWpaDon said you need that air space for cooling.
That stove sounds nice good find, post pics when you get it.

Gunsnmopars · Post by **Gunsnmopars** » Mon. Jan. 25, 2016 9:24 am

Ok guys thanks for the input. No roxul on my new install then.

Gunsnmopars · Post by **Gunsnmopars** » Mon. Jan. 25, 2016 10:54 am

Just picked this up at my local ace. Would this be ok to use?

SWPaDon · Post by **SWPaDon** » Mon. Jan. 25, 2016 11:49 am

As long as it's the right size at both ends it should be. Is it a heavy guage metal?

Gunsnmopars · Post by **Gunsnmopars** » Mon. Jan. 25, 2016 1:47 pm

Its 18 ga guy told me there it is for coal or wood burners. Just checkin here though

[email protected] · Post by **[email protected]** » Tue. Nov. 03, 2020 5:07 pm

titleist1 wrote: ↑
Sun. Jan. 24, 2016 7:31 am
Welcome to the forum! As blrman07 mentioned those oval adapters are fairly common.

I believe your harmans have a baffle over the firebox to help divert exhaust so more heat is reclaimed to the stove. Be careful burning wood as it is easy to overfire and overheat this baffle causing it to warp. Over time the deformed baffle can damage the sides of the stove where it is welded or since the welds are strong damage the side of the stove itself by pulling it in due to the warping of the baffle.

This is what did in my first harman, although it lasted about 15 years if I would'a been a bit smarter it would still be functional. The good news is I found the interweb and this forum quite a few years ago and learned a thing or two!

As you probably all ready know it will burn wood but just not nearly as efficiently as a pure wood burner. You may just start liking the long burn times and easier work load of burning coal and convert to the dark side!! If you do burn coal that liner will not last very long as fly ash + moisture + the thin SS liners are a bad mix.

Hi, thanks for the info on the dangers of a warping baffle. I have a Harman elite insert - one of the early 3 window models - and the baffle is warping - it has pulled away from the center strap welded to the top of the stove. but has not damaged the sides yet.

What is the fix? You seem to know a cure. Thanks!
Steve

New Guy With Harman Magnifire Elite Insert

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