Coleman Lanterns

Coleman Lanterns

PostBy: cokehead On: Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:53 am

If you gottem, postum. This is a Coleman 237 which burns kerosene.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Locke, Godin, Tarm in da works
Stove/Furnace Model: Warm Morning 617-A, 3721, 502


Re: Coleman Lanterns

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:41 am

Now that's REAL PURTY CH. :)
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Re: Coleman Lanterns

PostBy: cokehead On: Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:48 am

I like it. I think it was made in 1941 but it isn't dated like most Colemans. I bought it in Standish, Maine. It needed a few parts and a good cleaning. It isn't perfect but it is sound and a good runner.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Locke, Godin, Tarm in da works
Stove/Furnace Model: Warm Morning 617-A, 3721, 502

Re: Coleman Lanterns

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:50 am

I like it--I've never trusted PERFECT myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Coleman Lanterns

PostBy: europachris On: Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:36 am

That's a real nice 237! Found 3 of them in a junk shop a few years ago and all were well used and one had been on fire. Amazingly, they cleaned up pretty well, although the vents were in pretty rough shape. The kero Coleman models tend to be really rough on vents due to 1) the heat and 2) the residual sulfur in the kerosene (just like coal - add moisture and you get acid).

http://tgmarsh.faculty.noctrl.edu/lantern/index.htm
http://www.oldcolemanparts.com/home.php
http://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/

Here are some of my favorite Coleman places!

Chris
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Re: Coleman Lanterns

PostBy: cokehead On: Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:46 am

I have been spending way to much time on all those sites you listed. Did you ever get yours up and running?
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Stove/Furnace Make: Locke, Godin, Tarm in da works
Stove/Furnace Model: Warm Morning 617-A, 3721, 502

Re: Coleman Lanterns

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:04 pm

That is a beauty. I was looking at a 220F recently on ebay.
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Re: Coleman Lanterns

PostBy: warminmn On: Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:18 pm

Heres one of mine that I have hanging above my Chubby. obviously, I dont use it. It took gasoline or similar with 2 mantles when it was used. Quicklite is what they called them, made by Coleman.
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Re: Coleman Lanterns

PostBy: cokehead On: Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:09 pm

That's what I'm talking 'bout! :up:
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Stove/Furnace Make: Locke, Godin, Tarm in da works
Stove/Furnace Model: Warm Morning 617-A, 3721, 502

Re: Coleman Lanterns

PostBy: europachris On: Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:17 pm

cokehead wrote:I have been spending way to much time on all those sites you listed. Did you ever get yours up and running?


Yes, believe it or not, 2 of the 3 needed nothing more than a LOT of cleaning and polishing and a new mantle. They look good, but certainly not "museum" quality. The third one had a fount bottom that I didn't trust, but a fount from a $10 garage sale 290 Powerhouse fit perfectly and it also had a trashed vent, so I modified a 639 vent to fit. I do have two 639 kero burners as well, and while they aren't as solid and heavy as a 237, they are still awesome runners.

My favorite is a Model CQ "Quicklite" lamp that I installed a Leacock model 107 burner on. Basically, it is very similar to the 220F lantern burner and uses the same generators. I added a preheat cup and exclusively burn it on kero. I find running the "Kleen Heat" kero gives me the least amount of generator maintenance required and burns with absolutely no odor (aside from a bit at startup and shutdown). Running Coleman fuel indoors always seems to give off a slight smell that starts to irritate me after a while.
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Re: Coleman Lanterns

PostBy: warminmn On: Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:43 pm

europachris wrote:
cokehead wrote:I have been spending way to much time on all those sites you listed. Did you ever get yours up and running?


Yes, believe it or not, 2 of the 3 needed nothing more than a LOT of cleaning and polishing and a new mantle. They look good, but certainly not "museum" quality. The third one had a fount bottom that I didn't trust, but a fount from a $10 garage sale 290 Powerhouse fit perfectly and it also had a trashed vent, so I modified a 639 vent to fit. I do have two 639 kero burners as well, and while they aren't as solid and heavy as a 237, they are still awesome runners.

My favorite is a Model CQ "Quicklite" lamp that I installed a Leacock model 107 burner on. Basically, it is very similar to the 220F lantern burner and uses the same generators. I added a preheat cup and exclusively burn it on kero. I find running the "Kleen Heat" kero gives me the least amount of generator maintenance required and burns with absolutely no odor (aside from a bit at startup and shutdown). Running Coleman fuel indoors always seems to give off a slight smell that starts to irritate me after a while.
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Chris


How does it operate on kerosene? There must be a wick? Im not familiar with preheat cups. Please enlighten me :D
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Re: Coleman Lanterns

PostBy: cokehead On: Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:49 pm

This video shows the mechanics of lighting a kerosene pressurized lantern. There is a pump built into the tank to pressurize it. He doesn't show the pumping up process. The pressure in the tank forces the kero into the heated tube (generator) where it vaporizes and it sguirts through a .009" inch whole into a hot mixing chamber where a venturi draws air in and is piped into the mantle to burn. Iridium or thorium in the mantle throw light when very hot.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Locke, Godin, Tarm in da works
Stove/Furnace Model: Warm Morning 617-A, 3721, 502

Re: Coleman Lanterns

PostBy: warminmn On: Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:44 pm

Hmmm, interesting. I may have to try this sometime. I never knew kero could burn without a wick or fire. Thanks!
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Re: Coleman Lanterns

PostBy: cokehead On: Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:57 am

warminmn wrote:Hmmm, interesting. I may have to try this sometime. I never knew kero could burn without a wick or fire. Thanks!


Kero burning Colemans are a very small percentage of those that are out there. You have to seek them out. Partial list: 152, 201, 214, 234, 237, 237A, 249, 639, 639B, 639C
I know that list is incomplete. It seems like a lot of different models but they just don't seem to be that common. 220 Coleman fuel models are everywhere. Coleman fuel around here $13.00 a gallon and up; too expensive for me. 220 gasoline models can be had cheap at yard sales and Craigslist. Kero models, not so much. The 639C is still available NEW. Personally I'm not in love with the stamped burner assembly on that one. Some people love them. If you can find a 237 or 237A they are quality builds.

A 200A Coleman fuel model can be converted to kero with about $20 worth of new parts and they are an easy install. Some people claim they smell but usually it is a J tube in the burner assembly that needs sealing or they are putting too much pressure in the fount (fuel tank) overdriving the mantle. What I mean by overdriving is so much vaporized fuel is flowing to the mantle that some of it actually burns outside the mantle. When that happens I reduce the tank pressure until it burns right, leaving the valve full open. I adjust the pressure in the tank, not the valve. Generally kero models have to be run full on to keep the generator hot enough to vaporize the kero. If you starve them for fuel they cool off after a while and will flare up with a dirty yellow/orange flame from liquid fuel (not vaporized) getting through the system. They need to be run hot to work right. It isn't has hard as it sounds.

I prefer kero indoors but technically you shouldn't burn any of them indoors or a confined space. They consume O2 and put out small ammounts of CO.

The current production dual fuel gasoline models are another option, new or used. They can burn 87 oct gasoline from the pump or Coleman fuel. Pump gas is cheap, cheap, cheap compared to Coleman fuel or kero and you can get it anywhere. I do use them inside some but do the start up and shut down OUTSIDE for sure. Most of the stink is during start up and shut down. I don't think they are that bad when they are up to temp and running properly. Ventilation is your friend.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Locke, Godin, Tarm in da works
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Re: Coleman Lanterns

PostBy: cokehead On: Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:16 pm

That quick light is purrrrrdy. I like nickel, chrome, and stainless. I have a similar lamp that is Coleman fuel only model, 152A. I just lit it and put it out in a small room so I could take pictures for you and my eyes are stinging a little. It is too nasty outside with blowing snow to take it out there. Don't do what I did. If my wife was home she would be rippin mad at me. :oops: Normally there would not be a pre-heater cup for denatured alcohol on this lamp. I added it to make it easier to light. The original shade for this lamp was of similar style but a little bigger in diameter.
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