Auto defense weapon

Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:20 am

coal berner wrote:Why do you think it is illegal when you are delivering coal as long as you have a license to carry in PA there is nothing illegel about it you might won't to read this


Well i was told that by either a Statey or DOT guy, I forget which. I got stopped and they asked if I had any weapons which i didn't but that brought up my question as to whether it was illegal or not if i had a a permit because i was considering getting one at the time. Anyhow that's what I was told at the time , however now that I'm looking I can't find anything that would back that up. Might be a DOT regulation and I don't know if the state laws would supersede it.

As far as actually going to the point of carrying a gun all the time I don't think i could do it, too much like work and then you have to keep it with you no matter where you go. You can't leave it in the car if something came up... too much of hassle and too much responsibility to keep track of it. I would consider it if I was in bad neighborhood bu the cops around here spend most of their time writing speeding tickets. If someone got assaulted or robbed while in their house it would be big news...
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:25 am

Richard S. wrote:
coal berner wrote:Why do you think it is illegal when you are delivering coal as long as you have a license to carry in PA there is nothing illegel about it you might won't to read this


Well i was told that by either a Statey or DOT guy, I forget which. I got stopped and they asked if I had any weapons which i didn't but that brought up my question as to whether it was illegal or not if i had a a permit because i was considering getting one at the time. Anyhow that's what I was told at the time , however now that I'm looking I can't find anything that would back that up. Might be a DOT regulation and I don't know if the state laws would supersede it.

As far as actually going to the point of carrying a gun all the time I don't think i could do it, too much like work and then you have to keep it with you no matter where you go. You can't leave it in the car if something came up... too much of hassle and too much responsibility to keep track of it. I would consider it if I was in bad neighborhood bu the cops around here spend most of their time writing speeding tickets. If someone got assaulted or robbed while in their house it would be big news...


I agree with coal berner in that I cant imagine it being against any law as long as you have a license. (That being said, DOT may well have regulations prohibiting firearms from being carried in vehicles with explosive, etc....that would make sense)
In re as your staement:....."As far as actually going to the point of carrying a gun all the time I don't think i could do it, too much like work....." I agree. It is work & there really is no point unless you committ to carrying all the time, which is a pain.
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:30 am

(That being said, DOT may well have regulations prohibiting firearms from being carried in vehicles with explosive, etc....that would make sense)


You gotta remember there is all kinds of regulations for commercial vehicles that aren't applied to private vehicles. On the top of the list they can stop you any time. they don't need a reason.. ;) And you will get stopped. I used to get stopped at least once a year, usually where they set up a impromptu check point which they do frequently.
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: coal berner On: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:37 pm

Richard S. wrote:
(That being said, DOT may well have regulations prohibiting firearms from being carried in vehicles with explosive, etc....that would make sense)


You gotta remember there is all kinds of regulations for commercial vehicles that aren't applied to private vehicles. On the top of the list they can stop you any time. they don't need a reason.. ;) And you will get stopped. I used to get stopped at least once a year, usually where they set up a impromptu check point which they do frequently.

There is no differtents in the Pa State carry law between Commercial or Private vehicles aslong as the company that you work for does not have a company bi law in your contract with them that says no firearm will be carried in or on company
property then you can Not Other then that it is legal remember it is a state law so you are legal in the state of PA & the
13 other states that honor it I don't know how long ago the State Trooper told you that but the PA carry law was change in 1989 before it was not a state wide license it was a Municipal License it was up to Chief or Police or the shieff in your area to issue you one Some first class city had there own laws about carrying a firearm Philadelphia was one & Pittsburg was another in 1989 the State of PA made it a State wide license so that it was legal to carry anywhere in the state
except for the few Places that I stated in the other Post even in a bar or pub however if the owner does not won't you to well he has the right not to serve you and can ask you to leave or ban you from his Place of business There are lots of Commercial vehicles drivers that are carrying legal or not :)
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:03 pm

Not so easy in New Jersey, unfortunately:

"Be a retired New Jersey police officer or federal officer to be entitled to an unrestricted CCW permit. You may also be an armored car worker. These are not statutory requirements, but a CCW permit is almost never issued to anyone else in New Jersey. The basis for issuing a permit is almost completely discretionary and you must demonstrate an urgent need for self-protection."

From ehow.com

Maybe if it was easier the crime rate would drop.
"If guns were outlawed only outlaws would have guns."
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: coal berner On: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:52 pm

Wood'nCoal wrote:Not so easy in New Jersey, unfortunately:

"Be a retired New Jersey police officer or federal officer to be entitled to an unrestricted CCW permit. You may also be an armored car worker. These are not statutory requirements, but a CCW permit is almost never issued to anyone else in New Jersey. The basis for issuing a permit is almost completely discretionary and you must demonstrate an urgent need for self-protection."

From ehow.com

Maybe if it was easier the crime rate would drop.
"If guns were outlawed only outlaws would have guns."
Five words Move to PA Coal Country :lol:
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Re: Auto defense weapon

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