Auto defense weapon

Auto defense weapon

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:23 pm

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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:27 pm

Man!! I like it!!

(I must admitt, the kick doesn't look to bad on the tape. Not sure I'd want to fire alot of shotgun ammo out of a light framed revolver though....That being said, I'd be much happier on the butt side with a sore hand than on the other side of the barrel........ where the little hole is!)
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:22 pm

Nice!
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: pvolcko On: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:03 pm

Devil, you think the recoil would be that bad? I'd expect the recoil would be relatively light. The 410 shotgun I have only kicks a bit more than a .22cal rifle. Recoil maybe on the order of .22 mag rounds, and those are quite manageable in a revolver.
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:32 pm

pvolcko wrote:Devil, you think the recoil would be that bad? I'd expect the recoil would be relatively light. The 410 shotgun I have only kicks a bit more than a .22cal rifle. Recoil maybe on the order of .22 mag rounds, and those are quite manageable in a revolver.


I've never fired a 410 of any kind. I was thinking of the 12 guage with 00 buckshot or Deer slugs, which have a hellova kick. Maybe a 410 is ok, it looked manageable to fire in the video anyway. In the gun thread, I mentioned how we were introduced to "SuperVel" ammo in our training & how the stuff went off like a bomb! (our hands were all sore after we fired the 50 round combat course with the stuff & our firearms instructor collected all of our little 38cal Police Specials to re-tighten them all. My right hand was bruised & sore for days!

Link about SupoerVel ammo: http://www.ammoman.com/40_EP_DESC.htm
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: pvolcko On: Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:59 am

.410 is a very light load in comparison to 12ga. Lot of fun since you can shoot it all day long without fatigue. Good for getting rid of critters and rodents in and around a barn since it doesn't have a lot of power.
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:10 am

The .410 is a lot of fun.. and like Neal said above,, can be used around the barnyard for varmints.. BUT, the .410 is still capable of blowing a hole in old 1/25" thick tounge and groove barn siding... don't ask how I know that :shock: :? 8-) :lol:

Greg L

I gave away my .410,,, I should get another one.. although really light loads in my 20ga pump are as much fun.

GL
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: e.alleg On: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:48 am

that thing is sweet! I wouldn't want to get hit with a .410
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:30 am

Ima gonna get one of these mounted on the hood.. :P




http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/weaps/mk-15.htm
The MK 15 Phalanx Close-In Weapons System (CIWS - pronounced "sea-whiz") is a fast-reaction, rapid-fire 20-millimeter gun system that provides US Navy ships with a terminal defense against anti-ship missiles that have penetrated other fleet defenses. Designed to engage anti-ship cruise missiles and fixed-wing aircraft at short range, Phalanx automatically engages functions usually performed by separate, independent systems such as search, detection, threat evaluation, acquisition, track, firing, target destruction, kill assessment and cease fire. Phalanx underwent operational tests and evaluation onboard USS Bigelow in 1977, and exceeded maintenance and reliability specifications. Phalanx production started in 1978 with orders for 23 USN and 14 Foreign Military Sales (FMS) systems.

Phalanx is a point-defense, total-weapon system consisting of two 20mm gun mounts that provide a terminal defense against incoming air targets. CIWS, without assistance from other shipboard systems, will automatically engage incoming anti-ship missiles and high-speed, low-level aircraft that have penetrated the ship primary defense envelope. As a unitized system, CIWS automatically performs search, detecting, tracking, threat evaluation, firing, and kill assessments of targets while providing for manual override. Each gun mount houses a fire control assembly and a gun subsystem. The fire control assembly is composed of a search radar for surveillance and detection of hostile targets and a track radar for aiming the gun while tracking a target. The unique closed-loop fire control system that tracks both the incoming target and the stream of outgoing projectiles (by monitoring their incoming noise signature) gives CIWS the capability to correct its aim to hit fast-moving targets, including ASMs.

The gun subsystem employs a gatling gun consisting of a rotating cluster of six barrels. The gatling gun fires a 20mm subcaliber sabot projectile using a heavy-metal (either tungsten or depleted uranium) 15mm penetrator surrounded by a plastic sabot and a light-weight metal pusher. The gatling gun fires 20mm ammunition at either 3,000 or 4,500 rounds-per-minute with a burst length of continuous, 60, or 100 rounds.


...or 75 rounds a second at 4500... that is silly but I guess is you're trying to shoot a missle out of the sky.
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: spc On: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:45 pm

Range = Classified :surrender:
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:58 pm

Good spot for a question: How many keep a firearm readily available in their car? (I do....a S&W 9mm auto...well hidden in a secret compartment)
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: gambler On: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:32 pm

I carry my Kimber .45 at all times so I don't need one in the car.
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:41 pm

spc wrote:Range = Classified :surrender:


Well I'd guess its at least 3 miles, when I was looking for that video I came across one for the gatling on the A-10 and in that video it stated 6km but that appears to have a much longer barrel. It's the same caliber. According to the video it looked to be 1/3 the length of the plane.

Devil5052 wrote:Good spot for a question: How many keep a firearm readily available in their car? (I do....a S&W 9mm auto...well hidden in a secret compartment)


Np permit to carry one so I wouldn't even consider it. the only time i really would have considered it is when I was delivering coal but that is illegal even with permit. I live in very friendly area, really no need to be carrying a weapon all the time.
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: e.alleg On: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:28 pm

does the 12gauge shotgun on the gun rack count?
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Re: Auto defense weapon

PostBy: coal berner On: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:08 am

Richard S. wrote:
spc wrote:Range = Classified :surrender:


Well I'd guess its at least 3 miles, when I was looking for that video I came across one for the gatling on the A-10 and in that video it stated 6km but that appears to have a much longer barrel. It's the same caliber. According to the video it looked to be 1/3 the length of the plane.

Devil5052 wrote:Good spot for a question: How many keep a firearm readily available in their car? (I do....a S&W 9mm auto...well hidden in a secret compartment)


Np permit to carry one so I wouldn't even consider it. the only time i really would have considered it is when I was delivering coal but that is illegal even with permit. I live in very friendly area, really no need to be carrying a weapon all the time.
Why do you think it is illegal when you are delivering coal as long as you have a license to carry in PA there is nothing illegel about it you might won't to read this There are afew places in PA you can't carry a firearm such as a bank
a court house School or school property a Federal building or State building State or Federal Parks which they are trying
to change as for the State parks go and if your employer or company policy forbids it other then that you are legel in the state of PA Plus 13 other states aswell


http://www.psp.state.pa.us/psp/cwp/browse.asp?a=15&bc=0&c=70426
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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