Post-war Iraq vs Post-war Germany/Japan

I brought this line of argument up in a prior thread (that Germany and Japan both were very difficult in the post-victory period and that we didn't "win the peace" in those places for some time). Can't remember which one, so thought I'd throw this in a new one. At the time, I was pressed by a couple people for some links or sources, but I didn't have any at hand and wasn't interested in researching it. However, this story just came out and across my browser. Speaks to much of what I was referring, though it is a bit light on the Iraq post war violence record vs Germany or Japan in the same period which was what the prior thread was most directly concerned with. However, even on that score it does recognize that there was ongoing violence and insurrection type activity in Germany, for instance, for several years and that people of such mindset remained in public life and politics for a couple decades.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/04/AR2008040403215_pf.html

There is more at:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/07/memories-post-war-germany-took-a-decade-of-occupation/

Hopefully the fact that the link is to a one of the premier center-right blogging and vloging websites on the net won't dissuade those who were asking for linkage from taking a gander. The post is relatively well balanced, recognizing both similarities and differences and knocking Bush for a botched '03-'06 post-victory period (I would be a little more forgiving, but do recognize fully the mistakes made), so it shouldn't be too distressing to the center-left peeps here to take a look.

pvolcko wrote:I brought this line of argument up in a prior thread (that Germany and Japan both were very difficult in the post-victory period and that we didn't "win the peace" in those places for some time). Can't remember which one, so thought I'd throw this in a new one. At the time, I was pressed by a couple people for some links or sources, but I didn't have any at hand and wasn't interested in researching it. However, this story just came out and across my browser. Speaks to much of what I was referring, though it is a bit light on the Iraq post war violence record vs Germany or Japan in the same period which was what the prior thread was most directly concerned with. However, even on that score it does recognize that there was ongoing violence and insurrection type activity in Germany, for instance, for several years and that people of such mindset remained in public life and politics for a couple decades.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/04/AR2008040403215_pf.html

There is more at:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/07/memories-post-war-germany-took-a-decade-of-occupation/

Hopefully the fact that the link is to a one of the premier center-right blogging and vloging websites on the net won't dissuade those who were asking for linkage from taking a gander. The post is relatively well balanced, recognizing both similarities and differences and knocking Bush for a botched '03-'06 post-victory period (I would be a little more forgiving, but do recognize fully the mistakes made), so it shouldn't be too distressing to the center-left peeps here to take a look.

I will admitt that, having just gotten home from going out to eat, I've only had time to skim the articles you linked but is there a segment in either pointing to (I in either the occupation of Germany or Japan) where our soldiers were being blown up to where we were sustaining 50-100 KIA's per month, years after the succesful conclusion of the war? (not to mention the severly wounded) Is you contention that our present Iraq occupation is the same as these others?(which I will remind you were wars where Japan attacked us on 12/7/1941 & Germany declarfed war on us a few days after....We didn't choose to fight....On the other hand, Iraq, by this administation's own admissions had nothing to do with 9/11/2001 & we therefore had no "legitimate" reason to invade since they didn't attack us first. ( & indeed represented no real threat at all to the U.S.)