I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:40 pm

I not heated my house with any oil in about 9 yrs .... the normal leaks upon startup were corrected and results are in...

OK, I shut my stove down in Jan to burn oil .. filled up tank @ 1.48/gal prior to test.

Burned for 30 days .. refilled tank at $1.52/gal on 20 FEB 16 .... 199 gal used, $302

Coal I purchased in SEP costs $290 / ton. I have about seven tons.

I would think that I would have burned about a ton or 1 -1/4 tons.

So on low end, broke even .. on high end, saved about $75 on heating costs.

Today's spot price is $1.52/gal on oil. Is going up or down? If it goes up to $1.62 / gal ... I'll be firing the stove back up.
davidmcbeth3
 
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 503


Re: I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:15 pm

What were your heating degree days for that time period, and have you tested your coal stove on a heating degree analysis spreadsheet?

If you haven't your numbers for the past 30 days are pretty much meaningless.
SWPaDon
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous
Other Heating: Oil furnace

Re: I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:09 pm

SWPaDon wrote:What were your heating degree days for that time period, and have you tested your coal stove on a heating degree analysis spreadsheet?

If you haven't your numbers for the past 30 days are pretty much meaningless.


What were your heating degree days for that time period: 6 girth units.

Of course its impossible to do a perfect side by side comparison (unless I built a replica and ran coal in one and oil in the other).

Going by experience is all. Others may post their experience ... I know some have switched.
davidmcbeth3
 
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 503

Re: I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:52 pm

Hey! That's swell you decided to switch to oil! More for us and there is no reason for you to stay :)
Scottscoaled
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520, 700, Van Wert 800 GJ 61,53
Baseburners & Antiques: Magic Stewart 16, times 2!
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck
Other Heating: Slant Fin electric boiler backup

Re: I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:37 pm

Scottscoaled wrote:Hey! That's swell you decided to switch to oil! More for us and there is no reason for you to stay :)

There's another on my ignore list ...
davidmcbeth3
 
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 503

Re: I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

PostBy: Lightning On: Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:48 pm

davidmcbeth3 wrote:I would think that I would have burned about a ton or 1 -1/4 tons.


I have to agree with Don. Guessing what you might have used in coal for that time period throws the whole thing right down the :flush:
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Overmodified/Bored out Clayton 1537
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Awesome Size

Re: I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:49 pm

Hahaha! You remind me of the guy in the movie,,,,,, "i'm writing your name down. Putting you on my list" Hahaha! :D :D
Scottscoaled
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520, 700, Van Wert 800 GJ 61,53
Baseburners & Antiques: Magic Stewart 16, times 2!
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck
Other Heating: Slant Fin electric boiler backup

Re: I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

PostBy: D-frost On: Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:46 am

David,
Thanks for the numbers. Me, myself, and I, being a 'conservative Yankee', have calculated that oil needs to be $1.50/gal, for my break even point, with coal at $300/ton. I installed the Yukon Eagle multi fuel, hot air furnace in 2005. I'm half full, on my 3rd tank of oil(275 gal). We're looking at $1.69/gal. for oil in southern N.H., so, we wait a little longer. Now it's time for another coffee, thank you.
Cheers
D-frost
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Yukon Eagle I (multi-fuel oil, wood/coal)
Baseburners & Antiques: Herald 'fireside oak'
Coal Size/Type: nut/Reading anthracite, stove/Blaschak
Other Heating: Jotul #118 wood burner


Re: I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

PostBy: Paulie On: Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:19 pm

Cheap oil and gas close to coal cost. Toss in hyper high tech super efficient gas equip, and gas would
get the nod. Having multi fuel capability is a bonus. Break a leg and hauling coal and ashes around
not possible. I use coal and gas. This winter, used gas more often than not. Having said that, give up
my coal systems ? No, not a chance !
Paulie
 
Stove/Furnace Make: leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer

Re: I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

PostBy: HillStreet On: Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:52 pm

davidmcbeth3 wrote:I not heated my house with any oil in about 9 yrs .... the normal leaks upon startup were corrected and results are in...

OK, I shut my stove down in Jan to burn oil .. filled up tank @ 1.48/gal prior to test.

Burned for 30 days .. refilled tank at $1.52/gal on 20 FEB 16 .... 199 gal used, $302

Coal I purchased in SEP costs $290 / ton. I have about seven tons.

I would think that I would have burned about a ton or 1 -1/4 tons.

So on low end, broke even .. on high end, saved about $75 on heating costs.

Today's spot price is $1.52/gal on oil. Is going up or down? If it goes up to $1.62 / gal ... I'll be firing the stove back up.


http://www.alternateheatingsystems.com/ ... fuels.html
Check out this link, has a cost comparison chart that is easy to read.
HillStreet
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS EnergyMax 160
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Anthacite
Other Heating: Radiant in floor

Re: I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:23 pm

Nice chart Hill ...
davidmcbeth3
 
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 503

Re: I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

PostBy: D-frost On: Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:38 pm

Wow, a chart!!!!
David, sorry you went to all that extra effort. Oh well, slow, mild Winter. Nothin' better to do.
Cheers
D-frost
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Yukon Eagle I (multi-fuel oil, wood/coal)
Baseburners & Antiques: Herald 'fireside oak'
Coal Size/Type: nut/Reading anthracite, stove/Blaschak
Other Heating: Jotul #118 wood burner

Re: I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

PostBy: theo On: Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:30 pm

Oil, Cold house and basement,,,,,, Mean Wife ,,,, Coal, Warm house and basement = very happy wife,,,,, worth the extra effort for me!!!! :D :D :roll: :P
theo
 
Stove/Furnace Make: LL
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire 2

Re: I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

PostBy: coal stoker On: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:33 pm

Amen Theo
I agree :D :D
CS
coal stoker
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 EFM DF520
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: oil fired boiler

Re: I got numbers ! Burned oil last 30 days .. cost analysis

PostBy: CoaldHeat On: Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:56 am

Another thing to consider David, is my home is way warmer with coal burning than it would be if I heated with oil. When I heat with oil my thermostat is set at 68 degrees, with coal it is at least that in every room with the main living areas being 70 -75 degrees (living room, kitchen, dining room, 2400+ sq. ft.). During the time frame you listed I burned less than 1 ton of coal (unless it was started on Jan. 1st, then it would be close to 1 ton). interesting test David, but I think for me, oil would have to be about $1.00/gal before I would consider it. Being able to warm up next to the stove when you come in from outside, or just being more comfortable overall with the extra heat makes it worth it for me.
CoaldHeat
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Pioneer LE/T
Coal Size/Type: Rice