Military History/Weapons Questions

Re: Military History/Weapons Questions

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:49 pm

coaledsweat wrote:I think Kirby was his real name and they called him Little John because he was as big as a house?


Nope...They were 2 different characters...I'll goto IMDB & get their names
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Re: Military History/Weapons Questions

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:51 pm

Devil5052 wrote:
coaledsweat wrote:I think Kirby was his real name and they called him Little John because he was as big as a house?


Nope...They were 2 different characters...I'll goto IMDB & get their names





Here we go:

Cast (Series Cast Summary - 6 of 220)

Vic Morrow ... Sgt. Saunders (152 episodes, 1962-1967)
Rick Jason ... Lt. Hanley (152 episodes, 1962-1967)
Pierre Jalbert ... Caje / ... (115 episodes, 1962-1967)
Jack Hogan ... Kirby / ... (112 episodes, 1962-1967)
Dick Peabody ... Littlejohn (99 episodes, 1962-1967)

Here's the IMDB site http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0055666/
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Re: Military History/Weapons Questions

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:01 pm

Yup...I was right!! Kirby was the BAR man! :poke:

Breakout - Season 4 Episode14
About halfway through, there's someone wandering around in the background who most certainly is *not* supposed to be on camera - a crewman/woman/person. Kirby is up on the bulldozer with his BAR, and Saunders is crouched beside him, asking Kirby what he's need to get the 'dozer repaired. In a close-up of Saunders, there is a triangular "space" between his cheek, the brim of his helmet & the upright support on the 'dozer cab. In that triangle you can see someone hustle in, then disappear behind the 'dozer. Spotter's Note: "..using my handy-dandy frame-by-frame advance feature, I could see that whoever it was wasn't in uniform and appeared to be wearing a vest..definitely an oops."

From here: http://www.jodavidsmeyer.com/combat/tri ... opers.html
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Re: Military History/Weapons Questions

PostBy: LsFarm On: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:11 pm

I must have been thinking of a different weapon Re: the M-1 thumb... Sounds like a good place to use a stick or empty cartridge case, instead of your thumB !!

My first employer when I was still in High School was Ed Hancock, he served in a mountain brigade [10th ?? ] in Italy in WWII.. He was a BAR rifleman... I remember Ed talking about hating the way it was a team... He said with tears in his eyes.. he lost several ammo carriers.. because at night,, the rifleman would fire off some rounds, then imediately move, roll over or move ahead or back,, so he wasn't in the same place when the enemy would return fire to where his muzzle flashes came from... The problem was the ammo carrier would try to stay close to the rifleman, and if he rolled into the spot vacated by the rifleman,, then he caught the fire directed at the muzzle-flash location.

Ed liked the rifle itself,, he was a big guy, about 6'4" and probably 240#, he joked that he was the only guy not issued snowshoes in his Mountain division.. he didn't need them, he wore size 16 shoes..

I still remember his teary eyes.. he was a real gruff guy,, I never expected to see those emotions from him.

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Re: Military History/Weapons Questions

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:22 pm

LsFarm wrote:I must have been thinking of a different weapon Re: the M-1 thumb... Sounds like a good place to use a stick or empty cartridge case, instead of your thumB !!

My first employer when I was still in High School was Ed Hancock, he served in a mountain brigade [10th ?? ] in Italy in WWII.. He was a BAR rifleman... I remember Ed talking about hating the way it was a team... He said with tears in his eyes.. he lost several ammo carriers.. because at night,, the rifleman would fire off some rounds, then imediately move, roll over or move ahead or back,, so he wasn't in the same place when the enemy would return fire to where his muzzle flashes came from... The problem was the ammo carrier would try to stay close to the rifleman, and if he rolled into the spot vacated by the rifleman,, then he caught the fire directed at the muzzle-flash location.

Ed liked the rifle itself,, he was a big guy, about 6'4" and probably 240#, he joked that he was the only guy not issued snowshoes in his Mountain division.. he didn't need them, he wore size 16 shoes..

I still remember his teary eyes.. he was a real gruff guy,, I never expected to see those emotions from him.

Greg L


There is a great cable show on that spends an hour going over different weapons...Forget the name :(
Bonnie & Clyde carried the BAR....or maybe it was Dillinger??
Anyway, a heavy weapon to carry!
Speaking of this: " he joked that he was the only guy not issued snowshoes in his Mountain division..".... My Father-In-Law was a great guy who landed at Normandy with the Yankee Division & went through the Battle of the Bulge. He also, was never issued snow boots & ended up back in England with frostbite. (the GI's back in nice warm England had gotten all the snow boots!!....Typical government!! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Military History/Weapons Questions

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:34 pm

Devil5052 wrote:Bonnie & Clyde carried the BAR....or maybe it was Dillinger??


It was Clyde. There was another hoodlum that liked the BAR....
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Re: Military History/Weapons Questions

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:33 pm

Submarine Questions:

1. WWII US overall sub commnder in the Paciifc?

2. Why did many of our torpedoes fail to detonate early in the war?

3. What was the predominant "Class" of US WWII subs?

4. What naval officer is considered the "Father" of the nuclear sub?

5. Name (& class) of the fist US SSBN?
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Re: Military History/Weapons Questions

PostBy: gambler On: Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:51 pm

coaledsweat wrote:
Devil5052 wrote:Bonnie & Clyde carried the BAR....or maybe it was Dillinger??


It was Clyde. There was another hoodlum that liked the BAR....


Clyde liked the BAR
and Bonnie carried a Remington model 8 semi auto rifle that was cut down and known as a whippitt gun. I do not remember what cal. the model 8 was. Bonnie was a small person and I think she also carried a 20ga semi shotgun.
I remember watching a show on the History Channel called "Guns of the Gangsters" or something like that.

My favorite gangster gun is the Thompson with a drum magazine. Boy would I love to have one of these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1zv4PWfR34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtvuqRiCysM
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Re: Military History/Weapons Questions

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:07 pm

gambler wrote:
coaledsweat wrote:
Devil5052 wrote:Bonnie & Clyde carried the BAR....or maybe it was Dillinger??


It was Clyde. There was another hoodlum that liked the BAR....


Clyde liked the BAR
and Bonnie carried a Remington model 8 semi auto rifle that was cut down and known as a whippitt gun. I do not remember what cal. the model 8 was. Bonnie was a small person and I think she also carried a 20ga semi shotgun.
I remember watching a show on the History Channel called "Guns of the Gangsters" or something like that.

My favorite gangster gun is the Thompson with a drum magazine. Boy would I love to have one of these.



Don't wanna turn this into the Gun Thread but I mentioned a cable TV show that spends an hour complelty describing many different firearms. (still cant think of the show's name??) One of the regular experts is a heavyset gun expert ( Dr. William Atwater) who always wears white gloves when handling a weapon & was a Vietnam Marine squad leader. He was doing a segment on firing the old M-14 on full auto & pointing at how badly the barrel tended to climb skyward with each shot. He said something like: "You may hit your target with the first round.....The second round will be high & to the right.......& anything after that, ........you are basicaly firing an anti-aircraft weapon!! (ROFL---great line!!)
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Re: Military History/Weapons Questions

PostBy: gambler On: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:18 pm

Is it called "future Weapons"?
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Re: Military History/Weapons Questions

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:35 pm

Tale of the Gun, or something like that?
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Re: Military History/Weapons Questions

PostBy: gambler On: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:51 pm

coaledsweat wrote:Tale of the Gun, or something like that?


Yes I think you are right, I do remember a show on the history channel called "tale of the gun"
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Re: Military History/Weapons Questions

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:44 am

coaledsweat wrote:Tale of the Gun, or something like that?


Yup...That rings a bell.
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Re: Military History/Weapons Questions

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:49 am

gambler wrote:Is it called "future Weapons"?


That's not the one I was thinking of but that's a good show too. (problem is they only seem to have two shows:
The combat infantryman of the future
UCAV air vehicles (or whatever they are called...Unmanned attack aircraft)
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Re: Military History/Weapons Questions

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:52 am

No takers for this?:

Submarine Questions:

1. WWII US overall sub commnder in the Paciifc?

2. Why did many of our torpedoes fail to detonate early in the war?

3. What was the predominant "Class" of US WWII subs?

4. What naval officer is considered the "Father" of the nuclear sub?

5. Name (& class) of the fist US SSBN
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