AA-220 season shut down

AA-220 season shut down

PostBy: swyman On: Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:25 am

Is there anything else other than what's stated in the manual for season shut down? Lube motors, disassemble vent pipe and direct vent, thorough clean inside boiler. Should I hose everything down with motor oil, WD40 or other type of lube? If I just put a light bulb inside and run constantly will that be good enough? What about the water in the system? My OWB had a rust inhibitor in the water but was a "open System", this closed system does not. Is the water "dead" because of the closed system that will not cause rust? 2 more days and I'm out of coal but it's been over 60* here so it's time.
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Re: AA-220 season shut down

PostBy: blrman07 On: Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:24 am

Sounds like you have it. Make sure that the power vent is CLEAN of all fly ash. You don't need to do anything with the waterside because like you said it's sealed. Some folks like to spray a rust inhibitor of some type on the fireside areas after giving them a good brushing. There are a couple of good spray products on the market that you can use.

Have a nice shutdown and a fun off season!!!

We'll see you in the fall. :D
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Re: AA-220 season shut down

PostBy: swyman On: Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:46 am

blrman07 wrote:Sounds like you have it. Make sure that the power vent is CLEAN of all fly ash. You don't need to do anything with the waterside because like you said it's sealed. Some folks like to spray a rust inhibitor of some type on the fireside areas after giving them a good brushing. There are a couple of good spray products on the market that you can use.

Have a nice shutdown and a fun off season!!!

We'll see you in the fall. :D


Have a nice summer and thanks for putting up with me this season! I really don't like the incandescent bulbs anymore, they just don't last. If I bought a Golden Rod to put in there, would that do the trick. If not familiar, a Golden Rod is what they sell to put in gun safes to keep moisture out. It basically is just a little rod that heats up?
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Re: AA-220 season shut down

PostBy: blrman07 On: Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:32 pm

Any thing will work to put a little heat in the firebox area. That will keep condensate from forming on the walls and starting rust.
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Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.

Re: AA-220 season shut down

PostBy: StokerDon On: Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:31 am

The best thing you could do for the off season is install an indirect water heater in your basement. That way you can just leave the boiler run til Fall. This will keep it from rusting inside and you will have all the domestic hot water you will ever need.

Indirect water heaters can be found on craigslist for short money.

-Don
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Re: AA-220 season shut down

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:06 am

Couldn't he also hook up a second one in his barn? That way he would have continuos hot water for those other projects he was talking about. :idea:
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Re: AA-220 season shut down

PostBy: StokerDon On: Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:36 pm

SWPaDon wrote:Couldn't he also hook up a second one in his barn? That way he would have continuos hot water for those other projects he was talking about. :idea:

That's what I would do. You can never have to much hot water!

-Don
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Re: AA-220 season shut down

PostBy: swyman On: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:27 pm

StokerDon wrote:The best thing you could do for the off season is install an indirect water heater in your basement. That way you can just leave the boiler run til Fall. This will keep it from rusting inside and you will have all the domestic hot water you will ever need.

Indirect water heaters can be found on craigslist for short money.

-Don


I have it setup with domestic hot water now but the boiler would burn a bag a day just heating hot water $6/day x 30 days/month = $180/month give or take is not justifiable. This of course has not been proven but I am going off of what Matt told me it takes just to maintain water temp at the boiler for a day?
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Re: AA-220 season shut down

PostBy: blrman07 On: Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:14 am

At the price your paying for bagged coal, your math is just about right. With a boiler the size of yours it doesn't make sense to keep it running just to heat water.
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
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Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.

Re: AA-220 season shut down

PostBy: StokerDon On: Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:55 pm

If you run one burner instead of two it should use 18 to 30 pounds per day to heat domestic water. Weather or not it's worth it we will find out in the fall when you try to fire the rusted up boiler.

-Don
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Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood

Re: AA-220 season shut down

PostBy: blrman07 On: Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:24 pm

Wow Don that was kinda harsh. Many many many people have boilers that they shut down in the summer. They treat them and they brush them and put damp rid in the fire box or a small heater or a 100 watt light bulb. Just because someone doesn't run their boiler in the summer they are not guaranteed to have a rust pile in the fall that won't fire up.
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Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.

Re: AA-220 season shut down

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:27 pm

Have a small wood fire in it once a week, say Saturday night or Sunday morning or something
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Re: AA-220 season shut down

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:46 am

I am considering running my AK180 on one stoker MIN=1 (the coaltrol is a miracle) for the summer and I don't even get DHW from it. Every fall I promise myself I am going to do it next year as the summer coal cost will be next to nothing. I will turn the dist. fan off and set the high limit switch to 140* and check back weekly. I hope I have the draft for it but on MIN=2 everything was fine. The piping does not allow for systematic rust protection and if it rusts through that will be an expensive fix. I'm with Don, some stoves need to be on 12 months a year and some don't. Probably the AA-220 is one of them that do and if I was hydronic it would be very tempting even without DHW.
Last edited by coalnewbie on Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:01 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: AA-220 season shut down

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:01 am

Please take the time to prepare the boiler to be idled...don't simply shut it off and walk away.

Brush and vacuum it out the boiler/base/hopper really well. Vacuum the fines out of the stoker and clean out the holes in the grate. Spray the door handle shafts and hinges with a shot of WD40 for something similar. Put a light bulb in the base to keep it warm.

When the boiler has cooled off, carefully look it over for leaks. Do this every day or two for the first week, if it is still tight and dry after that you should be all set.
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Re: AA-220 season shut down

PostBy: swyman On: Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:16 am

Wow these responses were not expected? Rob, that's what I was looking for. Just trying to decide what would be the best rust preventer....oil, WD40, or this stuff I bought to undercoat my new truck called Fluid Film? Surely not going to spend all that money to heat my hot water and if the boiler cannot take being shut off during the summer months then it is not very well made! It will get a very thorough cleaning and treatment of some kind, just have to figure out which is best.
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