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Post by fig » Sun. Mar. 27, 2016 12:01 pm

The pot diameter is 18" at the base. It seems big. I bet it'll hold 40lbs of coal.

There is 18-0-3 cast in the door frame just above the door.

I don't see any other holes in the base ring so it must not have had a footrest.


 
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Post by SWPaDon » Sun. Mar. 27, 2016 12:13 pm

fig wrote:The pot diameter is 18" at the base. It seems big. I bet it'll hold 40lbs of coal.

There is 18-0-3 cast in the door frame just above the door.

I don't see any other holes in the base ring so it must not have had a footrest.
The base of the firepot would be where the grate is, is that part 18 inches in diameter? If so, what is the what is the diameter of the top of the pot, just inside the load door?

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Mar. 27, 2016 12:51 pm

fig wrote:The pot diameter is 18" at the base. It seems big. I bet it'll hold 40lbs of coal.

There is 18-0-3 cast in the door frame just above the door.

I don't see any other holes in the base ring so it must not have had a footrest.
I think that you'll find that it holds closer to double that.

My Glenwood #6 has a 15-1/2 inch diameter firepot (16 inch outside) and 14 inch at the bottom - 10 inches deep. With the firebrick lining it's 13-1/2 inch at the top and 12 at the bottom. It holds a measured 50 pounds of nut coal.

Then it very likely had a ring like the one in picture that Potog200 posted of Doug's Round Oak. If you go hunting for one you'll just need the diameter of the ledge it sits on.

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Post by fig » Sun. Mar. 27, 2016 1:12 pm

No that diameter is only about 12" and about 15" at the top. The barrel the door mounts to is 18" diameter.

What does that slide on the flue supposed to do?. Does it slow the draft? Seems a bit strange. Is that part of the bituminous set up?

Here's a link for some info on these stoves I came across. This may have been posted before.

http://www.dowagiacmuseum.info/round-oak/identify-your-round-oak-heating-stove/

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Sun. Mar. 27, 2016 1:24 pm

Thanks for giving the measurements. I looked at that site earlier and saw this:
. The numbers (12, 14, 16, 18, 20, etc.) indicate the size and usually appeared before or after the model letter. The size of the stove was the diameter of the firepot.
I was curious.

I'll let Paul explain the use of the check damper.
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Mar. 27, 2016 1:26 pm

fig wrote:No that diameter is only about 12" and about 15" at the top. The barrel the door mounts to is 18" diameter.

What does that slide on the flue supposed to do?. Does it slow the draft? Seems a bit strange. Is that part of the bituminous set up?

Here's a link for some info on these stoves I came across. This may have been posted before.

http://www.dowagiacmuseum.info/round-oak/identify-your-round-oak-heating-stove/
Strange that there is so much difference in model size and pot size. With many stove makers the pot is usually measured on the outside. Is your firepot 18 inch diameter on the outside ?

Ok, if those are the measurements then your stove is closer to 50 pounds.

Yes. That collar slide damper is more commonly known as a "check damper". It keeps the fire "in check". It lets cooler room air in to dilute the hot air that makes for a too-strong draft. It can be used with any fuel to help slow the burn rate. It's especially helpful if not as much heat is needed, or if you want to extend burn times while your away for the day.

Here's a picture of the check slide on that same stove I posted before.

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Post by fig » Sun. Mar. 27, 2016 1:59 pm

Well my measurements aren't spot on. I had a hard time getting to the pot because of where I have the stove located at the moment. I'll get some better measurements when I move it. I know the barrel is definitely 18" diameter and the base that it sits on is 18" at the top.

That's a handy feature to have on the flue. I'm often away for 12 to 16 hours so it'll be nice to be able to idle it down, hopefully long enough to keep it going until I get home.

Well I'm going to do some more disassembly then I have some other chores I've been neglecting.


 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Mar. 27, 2016 3:24 pm

If the firepot is really in the 18 inch size range, it's more like the Glenwood 118s I have, which hold about 70-75 pounds. If it is, then I don't think you'll have any trouble getting it to run 16 hours after shaking ashes down and adding a fresh load of coal. My range will do 12 hours with only a partial amount of check damper opening and it only holds 20 pounds of coal in a 6 inch deep firebox.

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Post by joeq » Sun. Mar. 27, 2016 7:15 pm

70lbs of coal!? That thing should run on med. for 2 days W/O tending, no?
And Paul, did you say you have 2? Are they like the Glenwood 8s?

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Mar. 27, 2016 8:06 pm

joeq wrote:70lbs of coal!? That thing should run on med. for 2 days W/O tending, no?
And Paul, did you say you have 2? Are they like the Glenwood 8s?


Joe,
The Glenwood 118 modern oaks are about the same pot size as a #8, but they are not base heaters, just back pipe oaks. They hold a lot of coal, or wood.

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Post by fig » Mon. Mar. 28, 2016 6:58 am

Well I hit a brick wall with these bolts. My solvent isn't breaking any of the rust up. I managed to break some off so I'm going to get a package of sanding discs today and grind them off from the inside. The ones I can reach anyway.

I was wondering about clearances. Looks like 36" is the norm. I was wondering if using a heat shield against the wall cuts that back any?

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Mon. Mar. 28, 2016 7:02 am

Yes it does. Leave the heat shield about an inch or so off the floor so air can circulate behind it and keep it cooler.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Mon. Mar. 28, 2016 7:55 am

Fig,
Here ya go - National Fire Code stove clearances and reduced clearances.

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Post by fig » Mon. Mar. 28, 2016 6:00 pm

Very good! That helps alot. At least I won't have to have it sitting in the middle of the room...lol.

Thanks Don...ill do that. I have my Fireview set up just like that.

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Mon. Mar. 28, 2016 6:42 pm

Be sure to take pictures , lots of pictures of everything. It will help you with reassembly, and you can document everything right here on this thread so we can watch. We love pictures.


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