Would C. Rice as VP Help or Hurt John McCain?

Would C. Rice as VP Help or Hurt John McCain?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:23 pm

I tried to make this question into a "poll" question but keep getting an error message saying Poll Titles cant exceed 100 charcters??? (I tried to change it but what is the Poll title?...... Maybe someone smarter than I could make it into a poll question)

Question: If John Mcain chooses Sec Of State Condoleezza Rice as his VP running mate, will that make you more or less inclined to vote for him?

Speculation is rampant that he may choose her. What are your thoughts?
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Re: Would C. Rice as VP Help or Hurt John McCain?

PostBy: spc On: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:11 pm

Here is a NY state poll:

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Re: Would C. Rice as VP Help or Hurt John McCain?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:15 pm

It won't matter who he picks. Everyone talks about balancing the ticket, but I don't believe the VP choice ever really plays into peoples decision making process in the voting booth. I inherited this thought from dad, who just happened to be an American political historian. :)

C. Rice has made it clear she is going back to Stanford. She has never run for any office.

My guess for his choice? Romney or Lieberman.
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Re: Would C. Rice as VP Help or Hurt John McCain?

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:22 pm

I'd like to see Ron Paul on the ticket.. but only if McCain would listen to him and get his input.

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Re: Would C. Rice as VP Help or Hurt John McCain?

PostBy: stockingfull On: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:32 pm

I hope he picks her. 8-)

Seriously, he's got a tough choice to make: if he goes to the center, he risks the right staying home. If he goes right, it'll dampen his appeal to the independents he must have to win.

In either case, his choice will be seen as more important than most VP choices due to his age and melanoma status.
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Re: Would C. Rice as VP Help or Hurt John McCain?

PostBy: pvolcko On: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:12 am

Not going to be Liebs. As good as his support for the war has been, he would cause the entire conservative part of the republican party to sit it out. They're already dabbling with the notion given their distaste for McCain. Perhaps Liebs could draw an even higher percentage of indy's and crossover dems, but it would be marginal given McCain's natural draw on these groups already. Liebs is a better asset to have in the Senate anyway, where his vote for war and security measures and being a voice of reason among the democrats on and indy's on other issues is very useful.

Unfortunately, I think Romney would make the evangelicals bolt, though I personally like this pick.

Condi... I don't know a damn thing about her politics. I suspect she would say yes if asked, but she has been pretty clear that she is not interested in being asked. From a purely surface level perspective, I think she would be a wash on the ticket. She's highly intelligent, has a top notch resume and probably a strong biographical story, appears to be absolutely tough as nails (no crying on the campaign trail), and she would round out the international diplomatic aspect of a "team ticket". But she doesn't bring anything to the table on non-security domestic politics, which is where McCain needs the most help. She's also stained by the Bush administration and various policies over the last 8 years that aren't popular (McCain has Iraq hanging on his neck, but otherwise is not tied to Bush and is able to distance himself from any number of low popularity policies). And no matter what the republicans do, her choice will be interpreted and spoken of as a cynical attempt to neutralize the race-transcending moment of Obama and the democrat party by nominating him. It will not matter how qualified she is, how likable she is, how serious or obviously good for the position she is... there is only room enough in this race for one transcending candidate and it is going to be Obama. Just ask the democrats how the whole competing transcendent nominees thing is going.

Best to pick a governor with a strong domestic politics background (economics most valuable) who is relatively young, has demonstrated a keen sense of good judgment and ability to live up to a challenging position, and can speak with some inspiration. Probably also best to pick someone who did not run for the nomination.

Re: Would C. Rice as VP Help or Hurt John McCain?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:43 am

I'll throw my 2 cents in even though I could never vote for McCain now due to his stance on Iraq & Iran, tax cuts, flip flops, etc.
But.....I think C. Rice would hurt his chances in the general election simply due to her being one of the architects of a war that has become hugely unpopular with the American voter. Add to that, based upon Sen. McCain's age, etc the very real chance that she could be propelled into actually being the President & I think she is a debit to his chances. I may be wrong (it happened once when I was 14 years old I think) but C. Rice has always struck me as being intensley ambitious & devoid of any humanity or morality. She appears to be willing to just "click her high heels", salute & carry out any orders given to her by this admin. She has done nothing of note as Sec. of State either. My 2 cents
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