Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:26 am

Perhaps the Quran was saying the seed comes from love in the heart. As anything it can change from one man to the next, people tend to read into what they want.
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:30 am

BillMarti wrote:Devil,

Again where do you acquire your information from. Mine is always the same and anybody has access to it.

Bill S


Let's try simple English here:

Peddle your garbage somewhere else........You'll find no buyers here. :devil:
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:39 am

Bill, I typically don't get involved in religious discussions because they are generally a waste of time but you have to admit the Bible has been changed and edited any number of times. The version I learned from and I'd wager most people own, is the "King James version" It's called that because the king took out stuff he didn't like and added stuff he did. And it certainly wasn't divinely inspired. And most religions can be traced to even older religions. So when you are dealing with copies of modifications of evolutions, how can anyone know the "truth". Of course, that's where "faith" kicks in and I duck out. :D
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: BillMarti On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:43 am

Billinldey'

There are 7 dispensation in the bible we are now in the dispensation of Grace. Many of the laws you speak of were under the dispensation of law which only affected the jews Gods chosen people and no one else. The dispensation of grace extends to everybody because of the Jews disobedience to Gods Word. I do have seminary and Bible institute back ground.

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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: BillMarti On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:44 am

Devil,

Your a very angry and contrary person.

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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: BillMarti On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:49 am

jpete,

The KJV is indeed a translation but not all Hebrew and Aramaic words will translate to english but it is the closest to the original text. Show me where it doesn't follow the original text in essence. A translation is a translation but that is not a debate. It's just another rabbit trail.

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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:51 am

billlindley wrote:For those of us who are questioning their faith (me) this forum topic will really do nothing to reinforce my faith but simply lead me down a path that forces more questions.



Lots of truth in your entire post! :clap: :devil:
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: BillMarti On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:52 am

samhill,

It's still wrong regardless of what you think they thought.

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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:54 am

BillMarti wrote:Devil,

Your a very angry and contrary person.

Bill S.



I only get angry when people attempt to "Con" me........I take it as an insult to my intelligence, & you are insulting to me & I'm guessing many others here on this forum.
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:58 am

samhill wrote:In saying that from what I do know is that the truest preserved book is that of the Quran.


They have the advantage of being the "youngest" major religion. ;)
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:58 am

Back on topic please, this started out as nice friendly thread....
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: stockingfull On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:00 am

I'm done with this one; the mods may wish to consider euthanasia (of the thread 8-) ), whether or not that's allowed by the Bible.

[And I hadn't seen Richard's post when I wrote the above. :D ]
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:03 am

Richard S. wrote:Back on topic please, this started out as nice friendly thread....



Agreed. We got sidetracked & I think it's a good place to continue an informative & nice friendly thread , as Richard said. :up:
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: stockingfull On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:10 am

Apart from whether it's friendly or not, it hasn't been informative for pages now, so I'm still done.
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: spc On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:11 am

Poll: Creationism Trumps Evolution:

God created humans in present form - 55%

Humans evolved, God guided the process - 27%

Humans evolved, God did not guide process - 13%


So 82% of Americans believe God created humans or guided the process. Can 82% of us be wrong?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/ ... 7083.shtml

Now if you would like to learn about your Creator & his creation I would suggest the Bible, the #1 selling book of all time.

If others can suggest a book with more insight on our Creator please share it with us.
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