Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: tvb On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:49 pm

So you don't mind if the public schools teach your kids about the principals of Wicca or the Flying Spaghetti Monster? After all, they are just as valid as your nonsense.
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:20 pm

tvb wrote:So you don't mind if the public schools teach your kids about the principals of Wicca or the Flying Spaghetti Monster? After all, they are just as valid as your nonsense.


TVB...I recommend you not even try to engage : BillMarti in conversation anymore. He has already more than established the fact that he is dishonorable, see's everything though a ludicrous lens is blind to the truth & is only here to cause trouble. Look back through his posts & you will find very few on coal subjects, so what does that tell you?.....Last time I looked, this is a coal forum that has many intelligent members who like to discuss mainly coal heating, but have many other interests & like to discuss them. BillMarti is simply a trouble maker who likes to see his words in print & is well spoken enough to deceive people into believing he actually is saying something. ......He isn't....so don't waste your time.
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:24 pm

Well Bill maybe you should go back in time a little farther when the preists were as powerful if not moreso than the kings. When you believe as I tell you or your dead. Or when the Spainards would cut off the Indians foot & hand if they chose not to believe in their true God. It`s all in the interpatation, you have to change with time just like religion has. If you are going to survive anyway.
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: BillMarti On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:32 pm

Devil,

Your getting meaner by the day. I have done absolutely nothing to you personally to deserve your continual attacks. If you can't deal with something you started shame shame on you. I've answered every question I was asked but because I did not follow you limitations you stamp you feet. Sorry but you will not intimidate me or interfere with my Constitutional free speech. Bad mouth as you see fit this lets me know your listening and maybe learning I will pray to that end.

Bill S.
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: BillMarti On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:37 pm

samhill,

That is not Christianity of the Bible, that was done and authored by the catholic church which I'm not a part of and they would have probably murdered me because I would not have submitted to the catholic church. So your right I wouldn't have survived.

Bill S.
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: brckwlt On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:42 pm

I do like to debate issues sometimes. One thing i don't get is why do we even bother? What does it matter if i believe god created man or that man created god? Chances are that i wont be able to convince someone who believes that god created man that he didn't, or that man created god that he didn't. So why even try. i have found that once someone believes one thing or was raised to believe something they rarely change their mind on the issue. All this does is cause arguments and you get no where besides angry at each other. it is good we all have different opinions on politics god and man etc.. but really whats the point?
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:45 pm

BillMarti wrote:Devil,
Your getting meaner by the day. I have done absolutely nothing to you personally to deserve your continual attacks. If you can't deal with something you started shame shame on you.


.... and if you don't stop you are going to get a spanking.
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:46 pm

brckwlt wrote:I do like to debate issues sometimes. One thing i don't get is why do we even bother? What does it matter if i believe god created man or that man created god? Chances are that i wont be able to convince someone who believes that god created man that he didn't, or that man created god that he didn't. So why even try. i have found that once someone believes one thing or was raised to believe something they rarely change their mind on the issue. All this does is cause arguments and you get no where besides angry at each other. it is good we all have different opinions on politics god and man etc.. but really whats the point?


well said Brckwlt... sometimes its just :poke:
but it is a topic and thank GOD we have free speech :)
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:50 pm

brckwlt wrote:I do like to debate issues sometimes. One thing i don't get is why do we even bother? What does it matter if i believe god created man or that man created god? Chances are that i wont be able to convince someone who believes that god created man that he didn't, or that man created god that he didn't. So why even try. i have found that once someone believes one thing or was raised to believe something they rarely change their mind on the issue. All this does is cause arguments and you get no where besides angry at each other. it is good we all have different opinions on politics god and man etc.. but really whats the point?


I'll answer for ME.......I enjoy these discussions for their own sake.(Why do people pay money to walk on treadmills at the gym? ....(They don't get anywhere?!? ) :lol: .......They do if for the physical exercise which is good for the body. Similarly, I enjoy discussions for the mental exercise alone!...Period!
Seriously, I have read that using your mind actively seems to delay, if not outright prevent Alzheimer's & other mental disorders. (I'd tell you where I read that but......I forget!!) :lol: :lol:
That's why I do it.
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:52 pm

coaledsweat wrote:
BillMarti wrote:Devil,
Your getting meaner by the day. I have done absolutely nothing to you personally to deserve your continual attacks. If you can't deal with something you started shame shame on you.


.... and if you don't stop you are going to get a spanking.



I get them regularly here. ;) :lol:
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: rockwood On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:13 pm

Poconoeagle wrote:
brckwlt wrote:I do like to debate issues sometimes. One thing i don't get is why do we even bother? What does it matter if i believe god created man or that man created god? Chances are that i wont be able to convince someone who believes that god created man that he didn't, or that man created god that he didn't. So why even try. i have found that once someone believes one thing or was raised to believe something they rarely change their mind on the issue. All this does is cause arguments and you get no where besides angry at each other. it is good we all have different opinions on politics god and man etc.. but really whats the point?


well said Brckwlt... sometimes its just :poke:
but it is a topic and thank GOD we have free speech :)

It is so entertaining though.
No, this isn't at all funny and you're right, one cannot argue someone into believing something or not believing in something. It just doesn't work.
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: Jeddbird On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:17 pm

rockwood wrote:No, this isn't at all funny and you're right, one cannot argue someone into believing something or not believing in something. It just doesn't work.
Poconoeagle wrote:
brckwlt wrote:I do like to debate issues sometimes. One thing i don't get is why do we even bother? What does it matter if i believe god created man or that man created god? Chances are that i wont be able to convince someone who believes that god created man that he didn't, or that man created god that he didn't. So why even try. i have found that once someone believes one thing or was raised to believe something they rarely change their mind on the issue. All this does is cause arguments and you get no where besides angry at each other. it is good we all have different opinions on politics god and man etc.. but really whats the point?


well said Brckwlt... sometimes its just :poke:
but it is a topic and thank GOD we have free speech :)

It is so entertaining though.
No, this isn't at all funny and you're right, one cannot argue someone into believing something or not believing in something. It just doesn't work.



I've read many things that have changed my mind. That's how you learn.
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: brckwlt On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:20 pm

Devil505 wrote:
I'll answer for ME.......I enjoy these discussions for their own sake.(Why do people pay money to walk on treadmills at the gym? ....(They don't get anywhere?!? ) :lol: .......They do if for the physical exercise which is good for the body. Similarly, I enjoy discussions for the mental exercise alone!...Period!
Seriously, I have read that using your mind actively seems to delay, if not outright prevent Alzheimer's & other mental disorders. (I'd tell you where I read that but......I forget!!) :lol: :lol:
That's why I do it.


i am glad you enjoy the discussions and that it benefits your forgetful brain...

do you ever get someone to change their pont of view on an issue or just piss them off :P

and yes devil, you are very entertaining :D
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: brckwlt On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:21 pm

Jeddbird wrote:
I've read many things that have changed my mind. That's how you learn.


Are they things about god, and politics ... or things of a different nature?
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Re: Did God Create Man Or Did Man Create God?

PostBy: brckwlt On: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:26 pm

In my life, i have found that i rarely if never change my mind on issues. Maybe i am to bull headed or closed minded to certain things. I see things in black and white, right or wrong. no middle ground for me. Maybe that's why i don't usually argue on the issues, because i know the other person will never change my mind.
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