Save XP Petition

xackley · Post by **xackley** » Thu. Apr. 17, 2008 1:36 pm

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Don't know if it will do any good, but I signed anyway.

Post by **Richard S.** » Thu. Apr. 17, 2008 2:45 pm

Just my .02 nd I don't want to discourage anyone from signing it but realistically those online petitions carry very little weight. Now on the other hand if you hand them a couple million signatures on paper you might get somewhere.

xackley · Post by **xackley** » Thu. Apr. 17, 2008 3:57 pm

Proper research reveals that Microsoft has publicly acknowledge that petition.

Post by **Richard S.** » Thu. Apr. 17, 2008 4:18 pm

I'd suggest its just lip service from MS, they probably had contingency plans to knock the deadline back if there was lot of negative feedback before they even announced this. MS makes announcements all the time and half the time it never happens, for example the announcement for the next OS with a date is pretty much a joke if you look how longhorn went. That was delayed years from the expected arrival date... My point is they probably through this out there to see what kind of reaction they'd get, they are probably looking more at tech circles and the general reaction of the public as opposed to online petttion.

The problem with those online petitions is they can easily be hijacked with many bogus "signatures". For example the way they verify is by your email address, I could set up a catcall then create script to hit the sign up form numerous times...The people running the petition may or may not have put in preventative measures for that, in that case you'd have to do it manually. Get yourself a AOL account or any other ISP that assigns IP's dynamically when you login and you become pretty untraceable. A single person with access to mail server could really create hundreds of signatures if not thousands.

It's just too easy to corrupt it.

Charlie Z · Post by **Charlie Z** » Fri. Apr. 18, 2008 1:02 pm

Richard is right on this. It can't hurt, but...

There is a rough measure in DC that a real letter to a member of congress represents the similar opinion of 10,000 constituents.

Email or electronic polls count for very little. Barring fraud, which Richard mentions above, the effort required to send a real letter makes it weightier.

I imagine having only 6.3% of the Fortune 1000 using Vista has gotten their attention.

Post by **Richard S.** » Fri. Apr. 18, 2008 1:33 pm

Charlie Z wrote: the effort required to send a real letter makes it weightier.

I can confirm that..

My old girlfriend was a letter writer and any time she felt like she was getting ripped off or wasn't happy she'd a write letter. We got 4 free tickets and the line pass thingy to Great Adventure because of an incident there, they were aware of the problem so perhaps that helped. She got a lot of free stuff that way.

spc · Post by **spc** » Thu. Apr. 24, 2008 9:45 am

Microsoft offers hope for people who want to keep XP:

"Microsoft Corp. chief executive Steve Ballmer on Thursday offered a glimmer of hope to fans of the company's XP operating system, saying customer demand may see the company reconsider a decision to stop selling XP in June.

Some 160,000 people have already signed an online Save XP Web petition who want Microsoft to keep selling it until the next version of Windows is released, currently targeted for 2010."

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Lumberjack · Post by **Lumberjack** » Thu. Apr. 24, 2008 7:54 pm

Dont hope too much, M$ wants you to pay a monthly rent on your operating system. They are also upset that many of you have choosen to skip upgrading to vista....

I got out of the M$ upgrade game many years ago..... LINUX

spc · Post by **spc** » Wed. Jun. 25, 2008 8:12 am

Microsoft Extends Support for Windows XP To 13 Years.

"security patches and updates to Windows XP will be provided until April 2014"

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Post by **Richard S.** » Wed. Jun. 25, 2008 6:41 pm

How generous of them..lol It will be long dead by then though. They just ended support for Win98 in late 2006. I only know a few people using it and those that are using it are doing it because they have a really shitty computer.

Post by **Rob R.** » Thu. Jun. 26, 2008 12:04 pm

I'm glad they decided to extend the support, XP is without a doubt my favorite version of Windows. I recently gave my old computer to my girlfriend to use and installed Vista on it because that's what she wanted. I cannot believe how sluggish it is compared to XP Prof. The computer is far from top of the line, but also far from shitty. It has an Athlon FX55 CPU (2.6 ghz), 1 gig of ram, 15,000 rpm SCSI hard drive, and a decent 256mb video card. Perhaps another gig of ram would wake it up.

Freddy · Post by **Freddy** » Thu. Jun. 26, 2008 12:45 pm

I think Lumberjack has it right. It's all about the money. If I can possibly do so I will never run Vista. I don't mind paying Bill Gates for his product, but I don't likepaying him over and over again. With luck XP will stay with me forever, but I don't know if that's possible.

Post by **Richard S.** » Thu. Jun. 26, 2008 1:00 pm

I don't think Vista will be with us that long. A few years maybe.

Post by **Rob R.** » Thu. Jun. 26, 2008 1:39 pm

Windows XP will continue to be a common platform for a long time. My company just upgraded to XP from 2000 this past month. Big companies like mature technology, much less updates and messing around.

My personal preference for my home computer is Linux, but I understand it's not for everyone. Even so, Linux seems to be gaining ground; for those that simply do internet surfing and email, it is a great choice. I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 on my compaq desktop, it is easier to install than windows and is very responsive.

djackman · Post by **djackman** » Mon. Jul. 07, 2008 3:28 pm

We've been doing Vista->XP downgrades for our clients. Order a system with Vista Business and you are automatically licenced from MS to install XP Professional or even Win2kPro on that hardware. Many of the behind the counter systems (with Vista COA tags on them) you see in Point Of Sale apps at major retailers are often reloaded with XP or even Win2k. It's the people who buy a retail/box store system loaded with Vista Home that are screwed.

Finding XP boot-time drivers for some of the newer chipsets (Intel ICH8/9, Nvidia) can be a hassle.

The XP discontinuation has really been a non-issue for most of our clients.