Re: Slow Movin Crane Posts

re: Slow Movin Crane Posts

PostBy: stovepipemike On: Tue May 10, 2016 7:12 am

Wow guys, we are stuck in the spring mud when it comes to new entries here on Crane. I just want to add that now is a good time to re- read the forum and hopefully pick up some information/knowledge about Crane's that we did not previously know. If anybody has any thoughts or questions before true bikini weather gets here, now is a good time. When the A/C goes on we will really be in for tough sledding here on Crane. Just pokin' the coals!! Mike
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
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Re: re: Slow Movin Crane Posts

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue May 10, 2016 7:19 am

Yep, I guess the only consolation is to know that even with personal issues, Dad Crane kept his dream of a real good lil stove to the fore-front. Apparently generational motivation is not a genetic issue. :(
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut

Re: re: Slow Movin Crane Posts

PostBy: ddahlgren On: Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:09 pm

DCrane has had some 'life situations' from what I have inferred from some posts. Possibly the Crane stoves so straight forward and reliable we run out of things to talk about. I wish mine would shake down better with less raking the grates from below and wish I could get 14 hours rather than 10 or 12.

Summer maintenance is change a cracked piece of glass new ash pan door gasket and put a bolt in to replace a loose door hinge pin. Maybe 2 or 3 hours a Saturday morning at worst. Maybe go crazy and verify zero on the Dwyer manometer LOL. I used to post a bunch on the hand fired group but got a bit weary hearing about someone's 'Perpetual Motion #666 BB' that only needs 20 lbs. of coal a day to heat an old farm house and tend every 24 to 36 hours. Pointing out the physics of fuel in vs. heat out was treated like blasphemy or a personal insult. Mid 90% just can't happen and pay the chimney for a draft. So personally I check here once in a blue moon or just read to see if something is interesting in the hand fired section. My story and sticking to it LOL.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: re: Slow Movin Crane Posts

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:04 am

Nice DD ;)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: re: Slow Movin Crane Posts

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:20 am

He's probably just breakin in a new ride....... :D
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Re: re: Slow Movin Crane Posts

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:39 am

Doubtful, I'd suspect his EX got any potential for that!! :clap: toothy Many of us been there done that!!
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: re: Slow Movin Crane Posts

PostBy: blrman07 On: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:46 am

You can't get 90% efficiency???

What's your issue??? :lol:
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant Casting 2310
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.

Re: re: Slow Movin Crane Posts

PostBy: coalfan On: Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:09 am

you said it fred dam !!!! :mad:
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: handfed coal stove
Coal Size/Type: nut/ pea ant.some bit.
Stove/Furnace Model: ds circulator/1500 sl/wh.

Re: re: Slow Movin Crane Posts

PostBy: ddahlgren On: Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:02 am

blrman07 wrote:You can't get 90% efficiency???

What's your issue??? :lol:


Nope and no sense starting that rake fight here either.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: re: Slow Movin Crane Posts

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:55 am

Come on DD. Check smilies-- :)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: re: Slow Movin Crane Posts

PostBy: blrman07 On: Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:04 am

Time to poke the bear????

I rate my handfed at 70% burning pea coal. It's sticker rated at 50K which gives me an output of somewhere around 35K flat out. My house is 985 sq ft with newer windows, no wall insulation but the curtains don't move with a 25 knot wind blowing from the north east when it's 5 outside. :o

Using 40 BTU per sq ft I get a required BTU of 39K which explains why when it gets stupid cold out and I'm running my vig at 650 on the griddle, the oil boiler for the baseboard heat kicks on. I will burn about 60 lbs a day so if it's rated at 12,500 BTU per lb then that comes to 31,250 BTU/HR. Numbers are not to far off are they? On really cold stupid cold days I will burn two hods a day or about 80 lbs. That puts me at about 41K but that is the far outside exception and I'm watching that vig closely and monitoring with the infrared gun :shock:

Oh yeah when it gets like that we hang a flowered fabric shower curtain across the kitchen doorway. Kitchen gets to about 60 but then I don't care because we aren't living in the kitchen. I set the oil boiler thermostat in the kitchen for 55. That's only for a few days a winter though.

I really have no opinion about efficiencies, heat transfer ratio's, round pot, square pot, rectangular pot, lined, pot unlined pot, BB, antique, modern, heat tubes, no heat tubes, blower, no blower. They are nice intelectual gymnastics but the only one tried and true test of a heating system is.....

Does it keep Momma warm and happy?

Because if Momma's Happy, I'm estatic :D
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant Casting 2310
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.

Re: re: Slow Movin Crane Posts

PostBy: ddahlgren On: Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:19 pm

Rev. Larry that is a very realistic estimate in my mind and easily done with a bit of talent as sure you must have. This last mild winter I spent a month maybe 2 running around 500 on the 404 and the rest is what I call doing the coal limbo as in how low can you go. For a 404 the current winner in my mind is windyhill as he has quoted low numbers for shoulder season that blow me away. But he is just that much better than me, when I try it fire out in short order. Around here fuel oil was so cheap I just said never mind. I am great with burning 30F and below over 45 to 50 out of my skill set and that is ok with me. We need to get a DCrane vs. windyhill limbo going LOL. I think my biggest problem is chimney height of 11 ft. with only 5 double wall so go low go cold and poof draft is gone. We will need rules 40 feet of insulated chimney is cheating!!!!

BTW how is the ministry doing? While only coal forum friends as never met I have great respect for your good deeds. Be well and blessings and good fortune to you and yours.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: re: Slow Movin Crane Posts

PostBy: ddahlgren On: Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:31 am

freetown fred wrote:Come on DD. Check smilies-- :)

Just learning the smiley things LOL
It is going to be 34 tonight and not get much over 50 from here on in so I guess it is time to punch in and get the stove ready and do the last of the outside work like wash Corvette and get the car cover on it and some pressure washing too.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404