I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

PostBy: Freddy On: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:10 pm

After much research, and lot's of info from the fine people on this forum, today I mailed a deposit check. I hope I made a good decision.... as much as I leaned toward the AHS S-130, and as much as I considered saving some dollars by getting a Keystoker K-6 or Harmon VR3000...... I decided on the Axeman Anderson 130. It was actually less money than the AHS
S-130 by the time you buy a stoker. They think 8-10 weeks for delivery.


:) Fred
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

Re: I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

PostBy: beatle78 On: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:12 pm

Awesome Feddy!!

How much was the AA-130?

What's the difference between that and the AHS S130?
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker KA-4

Re: I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

PostBy: Freddy On: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:40 pm

Well, I spoke with the AA factory a few weeks back. They told me list price was $6,600 and gave me the name of a local dealer. The factory said if he was over $6,600 that they would sell me one direct. Today I talked with the dealer. He said he had to call the factory to get a price. A few hours later he phoned back and told me just over $9,000 plus shipping!! Ouch! I phoned the factory and ordered it direct. I do not need the hot water coil so it was $6,455 plus shipping.

The AHS S-130 by the time you get the thermo temp sensor and the upgraded blower (which the AA has stock), it is $6,287. Now add $1,583 for a stoker (that the AA comes with) and you're at $7870. So the Axeman Anderson is over $1,400 cheaper? At that point it was a no brainer for me.

I didn't mean to say $1,583 for a stoker.... I meant to say $1,583 for an auger. So slap me!
Last edited by Freddy on Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

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Re: I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

PostBy: bowman On: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:55 am

what is the axeman anderson web site
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Re: I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

PostBy: Freddy On: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:52 pm

Freddy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

Re: I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

PostBy: beatle78 On: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:14 pm

Freddy wrote: I didn't mean to say $1,583 for a stoker.... I meant to say $1,583 for an auger. So slap me!



ohhhhh, I didn't realize that an auger feed was a requirement for you. If it wasn't I would've gone with the AHS S130.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker KA-4

Re: I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

PostBy: Freddy On: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:55 pm

I'm hoping, if things go right, that I only have to handle coal one day each year. I have a good chance to build a bin that will hold 5 ton. Slant the floors to aim at the auger & with luck I never have to touch the coal all year after the bin is full. I burn 800 gallonsof oil a year now, so I'm figuring 4 1/2 to 5 ton of coal should do the trick.

Beatle, Why do you prefer the AHS over the AA?
Freddy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

Re: I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

PostBy: gaw On: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:07 pm

Freddy wrote:Well, I spoke with the AA factory a few weeks back. They told me list price was $6,600 and gave me the name of a local dealer. The factory said if he was over $6,600 that they would sell me one direct. Today I talked with the dealer. He said he had to call the factory to get a price. A few hours later he phoned back and told me just over $9,000 plus shipping!! Ouch! I phoned the factory and ordered it direct. I do not need the hot water coil so it was $6,455 plus shipping.

WOW!! :eek2: I guess your local dealer wants a new vette or maybe a beamer or does he have kids in college. At least he ain't afraid to make a buck. :D
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice from Schuylkill County

Re: I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

PostBy: coal-cooker On: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:55 pm

Congratulations Fred. Keep us posted on how you like it. Does it burn rice or pea coal? Pea coal would be great, since most all dealers carry it. Rice is harder to find in Maine.

Good Luck
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Stove/Furnace Make: Crane/Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: Coal Cooker/Mark II

Re: I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

PostBy: Freddy On: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:03 pm

It burns Pea sized coal. It will be this Fall before it's plumbed up & running, but surely I'll let the Forum know how it works out. 8-10 weeks before it's even built!

Ya, gosh, the manufacturer told me $6,600 was "list price". It only makes sense that the manufacturer sells at list. If they started discounting why would a dealer buy from them? That's just common business practice. I guess it's OK to sell over list, but THAT far over? Yup, me thinks he wants a new 'Vette. ;)
Freddy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

Re: I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

PostBy: coal-cooker On: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:12 pm

Great, start stocking up on pea coal. Everyone I talk to says it's going up again this summer. I am still buying as much as I can and stocking it away in the basement. Hopefully by next winter I will have a couple of years worth tucked away. I go by one of the dealers that I normally buy from on a daily basis and try to pickup 5 or 6 bags every day, since he is still selling it at last falls price. I'm sure his next shipment will be higher due to fuel prices and all.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Crane/Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: Coal Cooker/Mark II

Re: I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

PostBy: beatle78 On: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:41 pm

Freddy wrote:I'm hoping, if things go right, that I only have to handle coal one day each year. I have a good chance to build a bin that will hold 5 ton. Slant the floors to aim at the auger & with luck I never have to touch the coal all year after the bin is full. I burn 800 gallonsof oil a year now, so I'm figuring 4 1/2 to 5 ton of coal should do the trick.

Beatle, Why do you prefer the AHS over the AA?


I like the AHS b/c it is a gravity feed. I'm looking at it like a hopper boiler. All other hopper style boilers need a stoker, the AHS does not.

Also, I think the AHS is insulated, but the AA is not. Could be warm in the room if using it to heat HW during the summer.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker KA-4

Re: I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

PostBy: pret On: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:39 pm

So the older AA's aren't insulated? Can they be insulated so that one could use it for domestic HW year around? Does anyone know the clearances for the older units say maybe 35 years old and older?
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Re: I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

PostBy: Yanche On: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:51 pm

pret wrote:So the older AA's aren't insulated? Can they be insulated so that one could use it for domestic HW year around? Does anyone know the clearances for the older units say maybe 35 years old and older?
A-A boilers are not insulated, but insulation is a purchasing option. Very few were sold with the optional insulation. Units with out insulation could be insulated by fabricating a sheet metal cover. It would square up the top and sides of the boiler and have fiberglass insulation under. The AHS boiler comes standard with insulation.
Yanche
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Alternate Heating Systems S-130
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea

Re: I did it! Ordered my coal boiler

PostBy: gregsmit On: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:14 pm

That makes two boilers that got ordered for Earth Day. I dropped my deposit check in the mail for a Keystoker KA-6. It was a tough decision between AHS and the Keystoker, but the KA6 had the right combination of price and could be direct (power) vented, which eliminated the need for me to add another chimney. Huge thanks to all those on the forum who made researching this project so much easier. Certainly never expected that I'd be learning about primary-secondary pumping or chimney design when I started this four months ago.
-Greg Smith
Pelham, NH
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