Bulk coal delivery protocol?

Re: Bulk coal delivery protocol?

PostBy: mattcoalburner On: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:28 pm

Richard S. wrote:
snuffy wrote:The weight protocol brings up an interesting issue - why are each and every ticket rounded to the nearest 100th lb


To save time and bookwork for everyone where I was getting my coal they would allow you X amount over. With the delivery truck just from experience you could easily get it close to the mark you wanted but you'd try and err on the side of more. Every time I left the breaker I was over by at least 100 pounds on a 5 ton load. The only time I'd have to mess around getting reweighed was if I was light. If I was over 2 or 3 hundred it was still marked at 5 ton. As long as you're dealing with reputable and honest people I wouldn't be concerned about the rounding as its going to be in your favor.

FYI if you're picking it up yourself they are required to have the scale weight visible to you. You can check it yourself which way they are rounding.

Scales are certified in PA, but what is the allowance?


I believe its a percentage, in any event first person that will know the scale is off is the delivery guys. They know exactly what X amount of coal looks like on their truck.


The breakers I go to put EXACT weights on the slip, if your getting 2 ton and the coal is over on the truck every breaker I go to will show that i am either forced dump some off or charge the customer. I always ask the customer do you want exactly 2 ton or is it ok to be under or over a little. thats how I make my determination.
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Re: Bulk coal delivery protocol?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:44 pm

mattcoalburner wrote:The coal comes from the breaker and is dumped in big piles to be loaded with a loader into the hoppers, If it snows or rains the coal is getting wet before being bagged. thats one way the coal can become wet.


But that won't cause it to be dripping wet unless they are taking right from the breaker and immediately bagging it and even then the nut and the pea shouldn't be that bad.
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Re: Bulk coal delivery protocol?

PostBy: mattcoalburner On: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:00 am

Richard S. wrote:
mattcoalburner wrote:The coal comes from the breaker and is dumped in big piles to be loaded with a loader into the hoppers, If it snows or rains the coal is getting wet before being bagged. thats one way the coal can become wet.


But that won't cause it to be dripping wet unless they are taking right from the breaker and immediately bagging it and even then the nut and the pea shouldn't be that bad.


Your right, the main way it would be dripping wet is if your bagging and your behind and it snows and rains and the coal freezes prior to bagging, or like I said if the bags sit for a long period left untarped. Most bags will leave water in better than they will leave water out.
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Re: Bulk coal delivery protocol?

PostBy: Yanche On: Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:59 pm

I've once asked a coal dealer what the weight of my truck and trailer were? He said he couldn't tell me accurately because he hadn't "zeroed" his scale before I pulled on. He explained it's just the before and after load readings that matter. Your coal purchase weight is the difference. The absolute readings don't matter.
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Re: Bulk coal delivery protocol?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:05 pm

Yanche wrote:I've once asked a coal dealer what the weight of my truck and trailer were? He said he couldn't tell me accurately because he hadn't "zeroed" his scale before I pulled on.


It's not going to affect the net which is the important number for you but you're supposed to zero it each day , you have too. I used to be the weightmaster when we had our own yard. The scale would be off as much 200 or 300 pound from one day to the next especially in the winter time with the mud and snow.
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