mcrchap wrote:If your coal supplier picks up your coal right from the breaker you can ask for that slip which will show the weight of his truck empty and the weight when it was full. If he loads it at the coal yard you can ask (you might pay more) for him to weigh his truck empty and then weigh the load. The scales will produce a weight slip. He probably won't want to do that.
You could ask him to let the truck sit and drain for a while before weighing it.
subwaycoal wrote:I was often amazed how one of the 'trucker coalmen' could sell some Pittsburgh #8 for 'Premium Kentucky' and get away with it.
Richard S. wrote:Charlie Z wrote:My coal company's slogan is, "We cheat the other guy and pass the savings on to you."
Should I be concerned?
Yea if you're first in line.Coal Jockey wrote:All my coal comes in on flatdeck trucks, on skids, in bags. I can't get bulk. I have to manually carry wet and dripping bags that have been stored outside with substandard wrapping. I'll still take it dry please.
Bag coal is a different situation, at most you'd want it just a little damp. I don't know what the exactly what they do at the processing plant, if it's that wet it must be coming right out of the breaker. That or they wetting it at the plant to keep the dust down. Some moisture is to be expected, I'm surprised its thats wet when you get it.
Richard S. wrote:Yanche wrote:You could also make stopping at commercial scales and bringing you the weight ticket part of your WRITTEN coal purchase contract.
For small loads they will just tell you to call someone else and 7 ton would constitute a small load, I wouldn't do either the contract or the scale for such deliveries. I'm not even sure I'd go through the hassle with a tri-axle or trailer. It wouldn't be worth the hassle for either me or the customer. I'd only do the contract if you're were buying like 50 ton or more and the scale if you were willing to pay for the time and that would be a large percentage if its just 7 ton. The profit margin on bulk coal for deliveries is not all that great, dealers are not paying much less that what the general public is. Money is made on quantity, two good drivers with two good trucks could deliver 50+ ton in a day locally. I did 32 tom by myself one day with a 5 ton lift and the first trip was a full 3 hours there and back. Messing around on another scale is not in the plans, that's besides the fact that of all the routes I took I can't think of one. Even if your coalman did agree to this its going to drive the price up especially if they have to go on scale. Generally if I ever got very demanding customers I'd tell them to just call someone else, usually not worth it because it just becomes giant hassle no matter what you do. If it wasn't one thing it would be the other.
Richard S. wrote:snuffy wrote:The weight protocol brings up an interesting issue - why are each and every ticket rounded to the nearest 100th lb
To save time and bookwork for everyone where I was getting my coal they would allow you X amount over. With the delivery truck just from experience you could easily get it close to the mark you wanted but you'd try and err on the side of more. Every time I left the breaker I was over by at least 100 pounds on a 5 ton load. The only time I'd have to mess around getting reweighed was if I was light. If I was over 2 or 3 hundred it was still marked at 5 ton. As long as you're dealing with reputable and honest people I wouldn't be concerned about the rounding as its going to be in your favor.
FYI if you're picking it up yourself they are required to have the scale weight visible to you. You can check it yourself which way they are rounding.Scales are certified in PA, but what is the allowance?
I believe its a percentage, in any event first person that will know the scale is off is the delivery guys. They know exactly what X amount of coal looks like on their truck.