Old Coal firing techniques

Old Coal firing techniques

PostBy: boilermaker On: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:35 pm

I acquired a book recently and it had some interesting articles on coal firing and stoker operation. I'm not sure where exactly to post these so I'll give this a shot since it has to do with bit coal more than anthracite.
Hope you all enjoy.
Last edited by Richard S. on Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Removed images because of copyrights.
boilermaker
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Sime, hand fired hot water boiler
Stove/Furnace Make: Sime
Stove/Furnace Model: 6 section hand fired boiler

Re: Old Coal firing techniques

PostBy: Berlin On: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:12 am

nice find! thanks
Berlin
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Will-Burt Combustioneer 77B
Coal Size/Type: Ohio BITUMINOUS pea stoker coal

Re: Old Coal firing techniques

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:29 am

Boilermaker, although i would love to host those images due to copyrights I can't allow them. I removed them to protect myself and you, you're more responsible for the files you upload here than I am if you're wondering. If you can obtain permission from the copyright owner you're welcome to upload them again.

Just a little background but as soon as an original work is generated its instantly copyrighted, it doesn't have to be registered or even published. These copyrights last for many years and in some cases beyond a century. I think it's something like the lifetime of the author plus 50 years. The only time you can use copyrighted material is if it falls under fair use which is pretty limited, for example you'd be able to quote a few sentences in the book if it pertained to the discussion, copying entire pages would not be fair use in most cases.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite


Re: Old Coal firing techniques

PostBy: boilermaker On: Wed May 07, 2008 6:57 pm

Thanks!
I had no idea. I'll look into it more and see what I can do for the rest of the gang. Perhaps I could share them in some other way....like email or something (as long as they're not published publicly).
In the mean time, sorry gang. I'll work on getting the permission needed.
boilermaker
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Sime, hand fired hot water boiler
Stove/Furnace Make: Sime
Stove/Furnace Model: 6 section hand fired boiler

Re: Old Coal firing techniques

PostBy: boilermaker On: Wed May 07, 2008 7:18 pm

Richard S.
I wrote to Popular Mechanics for permission to allow these 1949 articles to be published. Let's hope they give me the go ahead. If they do - I will send you a copy of the email indicating their permission sent to me (assuming they give it) and you can decide from there.
Sorry about that. I was so excited about finding these great old articles that I didn't even stop and think. Duh!

Doug
boilermaker
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Sime, hand fired hot water boiler
Stove/Furnace Make: Sime
Stove/Furnace Model: 6 section hand fired boiler

Re: Old Coal firing techniques

PostBy: rberq On: Wed May 07, 2008 8:05 pm

Mark Twain wrote some very angry pieces about how short copyrights lasted, how he couldn't pass on his intellectual property to future generations of his family. It sounds like things have improved -- maybe gone too far -- since his day.
rberq
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 1300
Coal Size/Type: Nut -- Kimmel/Blaschak/Reading
Other Heating: Oil hot water radiators, propane

Re: Old Coal firing techniques

PostBy: bmelt571 On: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:57 pm

Hello,
I realize this is quite an old post to reply to, but as I was going through the "archives" I ran across this post. Through a bit of research I have tried to do in Google Books, I have run across some old articles that may be the same as those originally posted, but do not know. Since these are subject to copyright agreements made by Google and many publishers, I suppose that posting links to these legally available to the public works, would not violate any applicable laws and the said consequences to posters or moderators. If I am wrong, please delete the posts and edit as you see fit.


Hand Firing with Coal, Popular Mechanics, Dec. 1943, p116.
http://books.google.com/books?id=S9YDAA ... rea&f=true

Stoves That Eat Their Own Smoke, Popular Mechanics, Nov. 1949, p115.
http://books.google.com/books?id=WdkDAA ... ce&f=false

How to Burn Soft Coal, Popular Mechanics, March 1926, p505.
http://books.google.com/books?id=PdgDAA ... &q&f=false

Slashing Your Coal Bills, Popular Science, Jan. 1928, p60.
http://books.google.com/books?id=fycDAA ... ce&f=false

Five Ways of Save Fuel in Heating Houses, Popular Science, Nov. 1918, p114.
http://books.google.com/books?id=FCkDAA ... ce&f=false

Improving Your Hot Air Furnace, Popular Mechanics, Dec. 1926, p1045.
http://books.google.com/books?id=pdgDAA ... ace&f=true

The Shipshape Home: Getting More Heat from Your Furnace, Popular Science, Feb. 1928, p94.
http://books.google.com/books?id=VycDAA ... ace&f=true

Don't Pour Coal Up The Chimney, Popular Mechanics, Aug. 1946, p89.
http://books.google.com/books?id=7eEDAA ... &q&f=false

"Reading" You Stoker Fire, Popular Mechanics, Nov. 1945, p98.
http://books.google.com/books?id=p98DAA ... &q&f=false

Possibly I spend too much time on Google and this site, but I have always had a fascination with coal, and the industries that were tied to it since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution.
bmelt571
 

Re: Old Coal firing techniques

PostBy: Sting On: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:50 pm

That's the best stuff I read tonight

Thank-you!
Sting
 
Other Heating: OBSO Lennox Pulse "Air Scorcher" burning NG

Re: Old Coal firing techniques

PostBy: rockwood On: Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:57 am

Out of all those articles I am familiar with the last one about stoker fire. I have it saved on my computer and have referred to it for some time now...It's a good one.
Thanks for posting the links.
rockwood
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Stokermatic coal furnace
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Rockwood Stoveworks Circulator
Baseburners & Antiques: Malleable/Monarch Range
Coal Size/Type: Soft coal: Lump and stoker (slack coal)

Re: Old Coal firing techniques

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:46 am

Great links!

Thanks for posting them. I have read a few of them before but they are still as relevent as ever.
EarthWindandFire
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Leisure Line Lil' Heater.
Other Heating: Oil Furnace and Kerosene Heaters.

Re: Old Coal firing techniques

PostBy: ntp71 On: Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:03 pm

Thank you
ntp71
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Reading Foundry Water Heater
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Old Mill Mini Stoker with Keystoker Feed System
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Gibraltar SCR
Baseburners & Antiques: Caloric UltraMatic Coal-Gas Range
Coal Size/Type: Chervy Nut

Re: Old Coal firing techniques

PostBy: rockwood On: Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:29 am

bmelt571 wrote:Stoves That Eat Their Own Smoke, Popular Mechanics, Nov. 1949, p115.
http://books.google.com/books?id=WdkDAA ... ce&f=false

Here is an old silent film showing a smokeless furnace for soft coal similar to one mentioned in the link above. Wish I had that furnace 8-)

At the end of the film they also show the smokeless adapter that slides into a conventional furnace. (I don't completely understand how it works)

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675 ... ng-furnace
rockwood
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Stokermatic coal furnace
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Rockwood Stoveworks Circulator
Baseburners & Antiques: Malleable/Monarch Range
Coal Size/Type: Soft coal: Lump and stoker (slack coal)

Re: Old Coal firing techniques

PostBy: blrman07 On: Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:58 am

rockwood wrote:
bmelt571 wrote:Stoves That Eat Their Own Smoke, Popular Mechanics, Nov. 1949, p115.
http://books.google.com/books?id=WdkDAA ... ce&f=false

Here is an old silent film showing a smokeless furnace for soft coal similar to one mentioned in the link above. Wish I had that furnace 8-)

At the end of the film they also show the smokeless adapter that slides into a conventional furnace. (I don't completely understand how it works)

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675 ... ng-furnace


When they show the blackboard sequence I looked close and it appears to have a hot blast technique in a square box instead of a cylinder. The bit coal doesn't care where the air comes from just so long as it gets it right at the fire level.
blrman07
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: C&D to be installed in son's house
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant Casting 2310
Baseburners & Antiques: 1905 March Brownback Double Heater at the church
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.

Re: Old Coal firing techniques

PostBy: rockwood On: Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:33 pm

The furnace was designed so that all volatile matter distilling from the fresh coal would be drawn through the live coal bed and be completely consumed, hence, no visible smoke (there probably wouldn't be any bit coal smell either). I think that furnace could actually burn as clean as a furnace employing a mechanical stoker.
rockwood
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Stokermatic coal furnace
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Rockwood Stoveworks Circulator
Baseburners & Antiques: Malleable/Monarch Range
Coal Size/Type: Soft coal: Lump and stoker (slack coal)

Re: Old Coal firing techniques

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:37 am

That's basically the design of the Hitzer 55 and 82 furnaces. They use the 'downdraft' to take the smoke thru the coal bed, and use preheated primary air.
SWPaDon
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous
Other Heating: Oil furnace that hasn't been fired in 14 years