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Post by ginski » Mon. Aug. 22, 2016 4:10 pm

hello - I replaced my glass yesterday after 10 years .. I remember reading somewhere not to have a very hot fire the first time, but to do it in steps with a small fire first or the glass may crack .. is this true?

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Post by Uglysquirrel » Mon. Aug. 22, 2016 4:16 pm

My Dad told me same. :shock:

Smart like Father, he was a big Dope. :D

Makes sense to introduce fatigue lightly 8-)

 
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Post by ginski » Mon. Aug. 22, 2016 7:10 pm

i'm privileged to receive an answer from both of you. I knew i'd heard it before.
thanks for replying!

 
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Post by Uglysquirrel » Tue. Aug. 23, 2016 8:30 pm

Its something like trying to reduce the glass surface strain rate of change so the initial microcracks that inherently occur due surface to interior thermal variation due internal tension or compression, especially the areas in between tension and compression. Less heat, less stress, less strain.

As Dr.Kardenscer extorted with a hardened enthusiam, "Stess causes strain ! "

 
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Post by Uglysquirrel » Tue. Aug. 23, 2016 8:38 pm

Uglysquirrel wrote:Its something like trying to reduce the glass surface strain rate of change so the initial microcracks that inherently occur due surface to interior thermal variation due internal tension or compression, especially the areas in between tension and compression. Less heat, less stress, less strain.

As Dr.Kardenscer extorted with a hardened enthusiam, "Stess causes strain ! "
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Its something like trying to reduce the glass surface strain rate of change so the initial microcracks that inherently occur due surface to interior thermal variation CAUSING internal tension or compression, especially the areas in between tension and compression. Less heat, less stress, less strain.

Dr Kardenscer would have my hide if he found out about my error. He's dead. Don't tell him.

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Post by coaledsweat » Wed. Aug. 24, 2016 10:01 am

I learned early that glass sight tubes on boilers should never contact the metal parts. If they do they are commited to destruct at an exponential rate.

 
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Post by ginski » Wed. Aug. 24, 2016 10:24 am

coaledsweat wrote:I learned early that glass sight tubes on boilers should never contact the metal parts. If they do they are commited to destruct at an exponential rate.
thanks uglysquirrel for the responses.

i'm not sure coaledsweat what your response had to do with my question?


 
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Post by coaledsweat » Wed. Aug. 24, 2016 10:55 am

When the glass comes in contact with the metal, it increases the stress introduced to it. Metal can move around a bit and still be stable, glass doesn't live through a lot of movment, especially at high temps.

 
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Post by Uglysquirrel » Wed. Aug. 24, 2016 6:24 pm

coaledsweat wrote:When the glass comes in contact with the metal, it increases the stress introduced to it. Metal can move around a bit and still be stable, glass doesn't live through a lot of movment, especially at high temps.
All, around, profound awe at the practical knowledge within these e-walls.

I also need to be nice to Coaledsweat, he could upon a whim boot my sorry mind off this place.

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Post by ginski » Wed. Aug. 24, 2016 6:35 pm

you're a pisser UG .. you have very lucky neighbors.

 
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Post by coaledsweat » Wed. Aug. 24, 2016 8:49 pm

ginski wrote:you're a pisser UG .. you have very lucky neighbors.
His neighbor is a missle silo.

 
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Post by titleist1 » Thu. Aug. 25, 2016 8:38 am

coaledsweat wrote:When the glass comes in contact with the metal, it increases the stress introduced to it. Metal can move around a bit and still be stable, glass doesn't live through a lot of movment, especially at high temps.
So I think the take-away from this info is to be sure to use the appropriate rope gasket around the glass so it does not directly contact the metal......but I haven't had too much coffee yet.....

 
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Post by coaledsweat » Thu. Aug. 25, 2016 9:37 am

titleist1 wrote:
coaledsweat wrote:When the glass comes in contact with the metal, it increases the stress introduced to it. Metal can move around a bit and still be stable, glass doesn't live through a lot of movment, especially at high temps.
So I think the take-away from this info is to be sure to use the appropriate rope gasket around the glass so it does not directly contact the metal......but I haven't had too much coffee yet.....
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Post by ginski » Thu. Aug. 25, 2016 9:47 am

Thanks everyone .. very informative!

 
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Post by Uglysquirrel » Thu. Aug. 25, 2016 11:16 am

ginski wrote:Thanks everyone .. very informative!
No problem.

We are all retired leeches of the System at your technical disposal.


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