Harman mkII big enought?????????

Harman mkII big enought?????????

PostBy: gordonb999 On: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:24 pm

I have been burning wood for ever and now the time has come to switch. I looked this am at a Harman MKII. Nothing fancy because I have everything in the basement. Im looking for input from anyone who has one of these, about how well they find that it operates. My home is 1700sqft cape with center chimney. Will this stove be large enought?? I burn four to six cord of wood a year and keep the house very comfortable. (t-shirt) Just looking for some input and sugestions. I can get the stove for $1490.00 out the door. good bad or indiferent???? Would really like to be able to recoupe the cost in the near future. I live in central Conn and have been checking out all of the options available to me. I realize that this is a form on coal but at the store that has the Harmon stove the MKII is the only coal stove there and he has lots and lots of pellet units. I feel that coal is a better product to get into, or not??????? Any response would be greatly apreaciated. thank you Gordon
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Re: Harman mkII big enought?????????

PostBy: Freddy On: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:25 pm

I can't tell you about the Harmon. I'll chime in with my opinion and research on pellets vrs coal. I have just ordered a coal boiler. I gave pellets a hard look. I went with coal for a few reasons. One: I fear price and availability of pellets. Last yr some people had trouble getting them when they needed them. Two: If I burn a solid fuel I want my years worth of fuel on site by Halloween. Pellets take up twice the space as coal, and MUST be kept dry. Three: I understand a pellet stove gets a cleaning once a week to remain efficient. Coal, not so often. The boiler I ordered they say once or twice a year. Four: My wife needs something to crab about. I see to it that she has it. She fears coal will be dirty. I will prove to her that it's not, but for a while she can crab. ;) :) After she sees it can be done in a clean way, she can crab about how she's always wrong. It's a win win for me. LOL
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Re: Harman mkII big enought?????????

PostBy: coalkirk On: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:07 pm

Gordon
The MkiII is rated to heat 1900 sq. ft. so the unit is capable of producing enogh heat for your home. The trick is getting it distributed. You mentioned your present stove was in the basement so you should already be familiar with the challanges of getting the heat where you want it without having too much heat where you don't want it. What type of heating system does your home have. A stove may not be the best option for you.
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Re: Harman mkII big enought?????????

PostBy: Cap On: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:08 pm

Gman,
A Mark II should very well be large enough. Do you have a basement? It's of my opinion, a coal stove should be in the basement with proper vents to release the warm air to the main floor and above. Heat from the foundation up. :)
Research the Harman site for specs. Size it large enough to heat basement if applicable.
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Re: Harman mkII big enought?????????

PostBy: gordonb999 On: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:12 pm

Thanks for the come back Freddy and also for the humor.
coalkirk as I have mentioned I have been heating my home for years with wood so I already know that a stove is the way to go for me but the house has a warm air system. Im mostly concerned on whether this peticular stove will put out the heat that I need. gordon
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Re: Harman mkII big enought?????????

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:34 pm

I'll chime in too since I have my Harman hand fired (TLC-2000) in the basement of a similarly sized split entry ranch. If you can leave you basement door open (to let the stove-warmed air upstairs & the cold air down ) & maybe install a few floor registers, you should be able to get the heat upstairs. Harman makes great stoves & you'll find plenty of expertise on this forum. (you aren't going to believe how much easier & more controllable coal heating will be than heating with wood!)The MkII should do it.
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Re: Harman mkII big enought?????????

PostBy: Salemcoal On: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:19 pm

Hi Gordan, When i moved into my current house which is over 100 years old there was an old timberline woodstove in the family room with a large cathedral ceiling. This woodstove was big and it cranked. Quickly getting sick of wood I was drawn to coal because of low cost , high btu, and no creosote. I bought a barely used Mark II locally for 500. The Mark II put out even more heat than the Timberline. But there was a learning curve on running a handfired stove. By the time I was getting the hang of it at the end of the first season i found a used stoker and sold the Mark II to my brother who is still running it. I should have kept it. These are great stoves. You may be able to find a good used one for a decent price. If this is your first experience with coal be patient. Once you get the hang of burning coal you will not want to go back to wood. Good luck.
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Re: Harman mkII big enought?????????

PostBy: watkinsdr On: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:43 pm

Hate to sound too biased; but, if you have FHA ducting, why not use it? Several different stoker stoves/mini-furnaces would simplify heating your home. My father has a MKII and it's a nice hand fired stove; but, my father is retired and basically has nothing better to do all winter than baby sit his stove. If you are still working for a living (like me) a stoker is pure joy! Typically a stoker only needs attention once a day to load the hopper and dump the ashes.

Here's a link to Leasure Line's diagram of a really slick way to distribute heat using your existing FHA duct work with very little modifications required. Basically this setup could be implemented with materials from Home Depot/Lowe's by any competent DIY'er.

http://www.leisurelinestoves.com/1904137.html

Guess you could implement this solution with a MKII too...
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Re: Harman mkII big enought?????????

PostBy: gordonb999 On: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:59 am

Hey everyone thanks for the information. As usual this site is the place to be for really sound advice and new ideas. Now I have to get mother to see my way of thinking. After thirty years of cutting and splitting wood I'm ready to take it easy.
thank you all again gordon
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Re: Harman mkII big enought?????????

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:23 pm

Gordon, check out a stoker boiler. Harman makes a nice one and a few of the guys here run FHA with them and are lovin' it. :)
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Re: Harman mkII big enought?????????

PostBy: coal-cooker On: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:24 pm

Gordon,

I have been heating with coal for 22+ years and just bought a used Mark II. I have not hooked it up yet, but I am heating 3000 sq ft and feel it will be big enough since the stove I have been using is considerably smaller. The Mark II has a blower set up and you could adapt a plenum to direct that heat right into you existing duct work. I have vents from the basement up into every room in the house and use the stair case to return the cold air. You should have no problem heating your house with a Mark II.
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Re: Harman mkII big enought?????????

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:16 pm

I heat my drafty no insulation in the walls but R36 in the ceilings, 1000 sq ft, down by the windy Nantucket Sound, Cape with a Mark II and keep it 68-72. If your house is up to snuff with insulation and is reasonably tight you should have no problem. However a Mark III might be a consideration. It would hold more coal for longer burn times and you would not have to run it hard to keep it at that ‘very comfortable’ temperature. As a bonus when you do get a cold snap and the temps drop way below normal you will still be ‘very comfortable’.
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Re: Harman mkII big enought?????????

PostBy: Charlie Z On: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:26 am

How tight and insulated is your house? 'Distribution' is really the question - can you get the heat it produces to where you need it?

You can't go wrong with a mkII is a great stove - what we'd get if needing another. That is the 'new' price here, too.
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