Using a Weso Ceramic Radiant Heat Wood and Coal Stove

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Tue. Aug. 30, 2016 9:28 am

Yup, coal can be operated safely over a greater range of temperature output than it can with wood. Wood stoves typically burn the cleanest, and least risk of creosote, when they are burned near their max output.

And with the same size firebox, coal will burn longer and put out heat more evenly, for a much longer time than if it were filled with wood.

To give you some idea. Your WESO has a fire box that looks to be a bit bigger than my coal range - I'm guessing about 25 pounds of coal compared to my range's 20 pounds of coal. My range is designed to burn both wood and coal and I've used both. That 20 pounds of coal burns for 11-12 hours before I have to add more coal. On a load of wood, it won't burn more than 3-4 hours.

I heat the back half of my house with that coal range - about 1500 sq feet. With coal, no more waking up to a cold house each morning and having to relight the stove. My kitchen is 65 degrees on the coldest mornings (below zero outside) and the big tea kettle is about 5 degrees below boiling - ready to make my instant coffee. :D

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Post by deepwoods » Fri. Sep. 02, 2016 11:11 pm

Gina, hello & welcome to the forum! I was in my mid-twenties when I got sick of paying high gas bills (for back then) and went to wood heat with a vengeance. Whole house heat I might add. I always foraged my wood from nearby landowners who were glad to have blow downs and dead standing trees removed. Three years ago I switched to coal and never looked back. The wise tips you have received from our experienced members about wood are very true. I know because I lived with it for many years. I have burned Anthracite from four different sources and the burn time and heat output has been remarkably consistent at least in my experience. I cant say the same for wood. I had to stay at least a year ahead on my wood supply to assure well seasoned fuel. Oak is especially wet and really needs a minimum of 2 years drying time. Green wood will produce less heat and more creosote. If your stove is coal capable it's the only way to go. One more thing, if you've never experienced a creosote induced chimney fire I can tell you it's a truly un-nerving experience when the pipe connecting the stove to the chimney turns beyond cherry red and the roar from the stove gets unGodly loud. I sleep well at night with coal doing it's thing in my stove. I just received 8 tons of nut size anthracite in my basement bin. That's about 2 years worth of heat :D

 
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Post by just peter » Sat. Sep. 03, 2016 2:54 pm

Hello Gina,
Welcome to the forum.
The stove you have is set up for coal. And will burn fine with pea coal, and will give you a burn time for about 8 to 10 hours.
You have to load it to just under the load door.
It will burn wood as is, if you load it to just under the load door.
Basicly the load door is a bit small for wood, my best experience is with coal.

Peter.


 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sat. Sep. 03, 2016 3:52 pm

just peter wrote:Hello Gina,
Welcome to the forum.
The stove you have is set up for coal. And will burn fine with pea coal, and will give you a burn time for about 8 to 10 hours.
You have to load it to just under the load door.
It will burn wood as is, if you load it to just under the load door.
Basicly the load door is a bit small for wood, my best experience is with coal.

Peter.
Peter,

So that gina has some idea of heat output, how large of a space are you heating with your WESO ?

Paul

 
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Post by just peter » Sun. Sep. 04, 2016 12:05 pm

I have only 40 m2 to heat in a medium insulated house.
This stove is a bit too much for me.

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Post by dlj » Sun. Sep. 04, 2016 1:00 pm

Without getting into the back and forths on wood versus coal - for the particular stove you have, as franco b pointed out, your grates are not aggressive enough to easily burn coal. They will work perfectly fine with wood. With coal, you will have to learn techniques in how to clear the ash, especially over long time periods of running.

I also have a wood/coal burning stove, but in my case, the stove runs extremely well on coal and not so well on wood. Multi-fuel stoves tend to either burn one fuel well and the other not so well, or they don't burn either well. Of course that is a general statement and there may always be exceptions.

In your case, you will probably find that stove burns wood more easily than coal. However, it looks like you don't have a lot of fuel space so burning wood you may find that the stove needs a lot of tending. Coal will burn in the range of twice as long as wood for a given fuel charge. Burning wood you may find it difficult to get good overnight burns. It's hard to see just how big the fire box is in your stove, but that's my impression from your photos. In my stove, it will burn solidly maintaining the house for 12 to 18 hours in cold weather and noticeably longer in milder temperatures. In my stove, the volume of coal I can put in is probably about 1/3 the volume of wood. That's because coal has to remain within the firebox but with wood I used to fill the whole top of my stove with wood and it would burn down into the fire box. When burning wood in my stove it was difficult but possible to get overnight burns but my house was not kept at a constant temperature during that time period. Using coal, there is no difference in temperatures in an overnight run. Now this is also an antique stove so the more modern wood stoves are substantially better at burning wood. But you still need the capacity to have the wood in the stove to achieve long burn times with wood.

I burned exclusively wood for many decades but now burn only anthracite coal. Anthracite is so much easier to handle than wood in many ways. My house is cleaner, it's a lot less work, I tend the stove only twice a day and the house is as warm as I like it to be over that entire 24 hour cycle. I do get bored with taking the ashes out, which I do once a day. Wood produces much less ash and it's an easier ash to deal with. I love the smell of wood burning, there is very little smell to anthracite burning. Sometimes a little bit when tending. At least in my case. If the day were to come where I'd have to burn wood, I'd buy a modern wood burner.

Good luck with your stove.

dj


 
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Post by [email protected] » Sat. Jan. 15, 2022 3:09 pm

Hello, i'm new to wood burning stove. Someon gave me this Deutch stove all dismantled and can't seem to get it put back togehter and alos, is it save to direct the exhause pipe up my existing fireplace?Image

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Post by franco b » Mon. Jan. 17, 2022 12:01 am

[email protected] wrote:
Sat. Jan. 15, 2022 3:09 pm
Hello, i'm new to wood burning stove. Someon gave me this Deutch stove all dismantled and can't seem to get it put back togehter and alos, is it save to direct the exhause pipe up my existing fireplace?Image
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Post by LeoinRI » Mon. Jan. 17, 2022 4:31 pm

Juan,
I sold my Weso like yours, but I do remember when I replaced the firebox plates I could not get them to interlock into place leaving 1/4 to 3/8 inch gap between them and the grate. I had to put a bolt through the back plates to hold them in place. If you add your location in the profile there may be someone near you that could help.

You can vent the stove into your fireplace flue if it is lined and in good condition. You must remove the fireplace damper if there is one to prevent accidental closure. Use a "T" fitting plugged on the bottom to make the 90 degree turn into the flue and a length of pipe to assure smoke is released above the fireplace opening. Pack the space between the pipe and fireplace flue with rock wool insulation, or make a sheet metal closure to prevent room air drafting up the chimney. If the chimney is not lined/in good condition then you should install a stainless steel liner.

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