Hello all:
I have another post concerning the Beckwith Round Oak but thought I would start this one to keep the topic easier to search.
Thanks to KingCoal and some discussion on the other thread I looked into a Locke 524 which led me to a google sight showing a picture of a Warm Morning 400. When I saw the picture my eyes did a double take as I have one very similar. The background is this. We bought the adjacent 5 acres to our place and the place is a mess. Several sheds and a cabin that needs to be reworked and an old shed out back... definitely a place that belongs on a hoarding show. We have not put much into the place this summer due to other projects but digging around I saw this stove in the shed and dismissed it as a junker because of the firebricks had big holes in them. Once I read the post on this forum concerning these models it was apparent they were built for Bit coal ( we have sub bit here) and these are a design element of the stove. I about freaked and went immediately down to look at the stove. It is missing the top cover for the loading door.. cover I say the loading door is there and operated and seals well. The top is missing some bolts and is slightly bent. I did not have a flashlight at the time to inspect the bricks in detail but they appear to be in ok to good condition. I had another appointment to make so the grate was not inspected.
Overall this is potentially huge as I need a big stove to heat my newly renovated man cave / shop ( 50x50 with 14 foot ceilings) and I MIGHT have one within 200 yards of me.
Questions...
1) Inspection-- assume it is the same as looking at the round oak.
2) Can parts be acquired for this model fairly easily ( Warm Morning 500)
3) is the Size in the rage to be the the primary heater --- 50x50x14 with R40 walls R60 ceilings I would say fairly tight and not good due to the 12x12 garage doors and 10x10 garage door out the back. When we remodeled I took great care in trying to seal the new internal walls and ceiling.
4) Any ideas on how long the burn times might be with Alaska Sub Bit coal--- I really do not want to have to feed often as this would mean my wife would be responsible while I am at work... really would like to get 8 hours between with 12 being optimal--- That is main reason we did not look at other newer models --- our TLC 2000 in the house works great but the burn times are not that long... going to try to work on that this winter.
This stove is FREE assuming no major damage sure hope the comments lean towards PUT IT TO WORK.
thanks
Warm Morning 500
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Comparing the BTU rating of the TC2000 and any other stove would be an indicator of the heat output, but not a definite answer to burn time as a deeper stove will likely burn longer. Still, it will get you in the ballpark for heat needed.
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here is an ad from back in the day concerning the WM 500.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1097&dat=19620831&id=rCUlAAAAIBAJ&sjid=MxIGAAAAIBAJ&pg=641,1584102&hl=en
it's the next smaller brother of the model 400 circulator. while pretty good stoves when used in an appropriate area there's no way that stove will do the area you are interested in although, 2 of them might.
here is a link to one place that has SOME parts for the WM stoves
http://a1stoves.com/warm-morning-stoves-c-724_726_209.html
here's another
http://www.stove-parts-unlimited.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=warm+morning
another
http://www.woodmanspartsplus.com/Search.aspx?key=warm%20morning
some of these sites have more than it first appears but their pages are hard to navigate
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1097&dat=19620831&id=rCUlAAAAIBAJ&sjid=MxIGAAAAIBAJ&pg=641,1584102&hl=en
it's the next smaller brother of the model 400 circulator. while pretty good stoves when used in an appropriate area there's no way that stove will do the area you are interested in although, 2 of them might.
here is a link to one place that has SOME parts for the WM stoves
http://a1stoves.com/warm-morning-stoves-c-724_726_209.html
here's another
http://www.stove-parts-unlimited.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=warm+morning
another
http://www.woodmanspartsplus.com/Search.aspx?key=warm%20morning
some of these sites have more than it first appears but their pages are hard to navigate
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- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
- Other Heating: none
some important parts charts
http://www.woodstove-parts.com/Warm_Morning_Wood_Stove_Parts.html
an excellent thread from the archives
The Care and Feeding of a Warm Morning Stove
there are many more
http://www.woodstove-parts.com/Warm_Morning_Wood_Stove_Parts.html
an excellent thread from the archives
The Care and Feeding of a Warm Morning Stove
there are many more
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Thanks KC and warminmn for the reply. I am off to moose hunt but will take some pictures when I return. I read part of the care and feeding thread... at work and got me real excited about the stove. I will have a coal outdoor boiler as the primary heat but I do love to have a fire going when I am in a room... just makes it feel like home for some reason... speaking of fire one is going in the TLC right now as we are going to get down to 30 tonight... already had frost .... winter is on the way here in the interior.