Opinion Please

Hello. New member here. When I saw this post I had to join. Been lurking the forums for a bit reading some of the great stove restorations members have done.

To get to the point, I have a Favorite 416 that in its current state can only be used as a decoration. Now I am wondering if parts on this 415 are the same size and could this stove be used to recast what I need to fix my 416? Do you guys know if a 1 inch difference in firepots change the dimensions of the rest of the stove?

Welcome to the forum. I can't answer your question, but I'm sure others will be along shortly. Hang in there.

Fav416 wrote:Hello. New member here. When I saw this post I had to join. Been lurking the forums for a bit reading some of the great stove restorations members have done.

To get to the point, I have a Favorite 416 that in its current state can only be used as a decoration. Now I am wondering if parts on this 415 are the same size and could this stove be used to recast what I need to fix my 416? Do you guys know if a 1 inch difference in firepots change the dimensions of the rest of the stove?

Hi, what parts would you need to have recast ? I don't know for sure what will or won't work but perhaps the guy with the 415 will know.

get back to me and i'll call and ask.

steve

KingCoal wrote:

Fav416 wrote:Hello. New member here. When I saw this post I had to join. Been lurking the forums for a bit reading some of the great stove restorations members have done.

To get to the point, I have a Favorite 416 that in its current state can only be used as a decoration. Now I am wondering if parts on this 415 are the same size and could this stove be used to recast what I need to fix my 416? Do you guys know if a 1 inch difference in firepots change the dimensions of the rest of the stove?

Hi, what parts would you need to have recast ? I don't know for sure what will or won't work but perhaps the guy with the 415 will know.

get back to me and i'll call and ask.

steve

The internal part that supports the shaker ring and the rear parts that make up the base burner chambers- the mounting tabs are broken off not sure if that can be repaired.

To get a real good look I would have to tear the stove down. I picked this up as a project but has just been sitting out in the barn. Lol

Sunny Boy wrote:That handle on the longer shaft seems to be about inline with the cog ring, and as Don pointed out I can just make out two pinion cog "teeth" meshed with the ring cogs - on the right looking in through the front opening.

But, .... if that shaft is the pinion cog shaft, then where's the latch handle for that lower right side door ?

Unless it's a pinion cog shaft that can rotate inside a tube that operates the door latch ????

Paul

If you zoom in on the pic of the side of the stove you can see the latch handle right under the cog shaft. It is turned a bit making it hard to see.

post some well lit pics of your stove with a pointer of some sort showing the pieces please.

thanks,
steve

Ok I will drag it out for some pics. Maybe tonight or tomorrow.
Thanks

Your stove deserves it's own thread. Welcome to the forum, and can't wait to see some pics.

Thanks. Yes I will start a new thread when I get some pictures.

Hello Everyone, I'm a new member with lots of questions - not the least of which is "who is the manufacture of my hand fired stove"? Or maybe it's home made from a kit of some type... It has firebricks inside, and a temperature activated damper on the door. At anyrate, it is good to be a member of this forum.

Roland wrote:Hello Everyone, I'm a new member with lots of questions - not the least of which is "who is the manufacture of my hand fired stove"? Or maybe it's home made from a kit of some type... It has firebricks inside, and a temperature activated damper on the door. At anyrate, it is good to be a member of this forum.

Welcome, Roland.

If you could post pictures of the stove someone on here likely can tell you more about it.

At the least, we love to see pictures of stoves of all kinds. The good, the bad, and even the ugly !

Paul

Thanks "Sunny Boy" I hope these photos upload, I fabricated the copper cover on the bottom - the original was missing....

Roland. Thanks for posting the pix.

I've never seen any like it. It's design, and not having a makers name on it, makes me think that it's a home-built - likely meant to be a wood stove going by how high the door opening extends above the firepot ????

And I don't see any secondary air inlet/damper. Is there one around the other side ? Or feeding up the inside from below to above the firebed ? Without secondary air feed to burn off the volatile gasses above the coal bed I'd think there'd be a high risk of puff backs if someone were to suddenly open that door shortly after fresh coal was dumped in.

What is the grate like ?
Is there a shaker arraignment for the grate ?
Is there any type of refractory lining in the firebox ?

Paul

Thank Paul for taking an interest in this stove, I always burned wood in it till an old timer with a hobby in old stoves told me it was a coal stove... This will be my first coal burn, once I feel comfortable " putting the coals to it" . The firebrick linings looks like a factory inserts standing about a foot high (or more) vertically. The temperature activated damper, on the bottom half of the door (below the firebox) is the only air intake on the stove, and since I took it down the welding shop (part of the Army's marine maint facility) - well someone discarded the original grate so I had to draw you a picture of what I think it looked like... I don't remember it having a shaker, just a belly for some type of coals....

I was given an oversized Army Stove Grate with a shaker, but I had to cut off the extension to the shaker, as it was a couple inches wider than the original opening to the firebox.
I just ordered a 10-1/2 " grate with a shaker I think that will fit properly, but could never find the concave grate which came out of this stove.
* Additionally, I don't anticipate any safety problems in burning coal, yet I am always willing to listen to anyone who has more knowledge concerning this stoves setup.

Here are some more pix - with more detail.

And thanks again for all the help,
Roland

KingCoal wrote:post some well lit pics of your stove with a pointer of some sort showing the pieces please.

thanks,
steve

Well I finally got the stove rolled out and some pics of the broken parts. First four pictures show broken mounting points for the outer covers that make up the rear chambers.

The next four show where the supports for the shaker ring should be. I think a lot is missing here but I don't really know what it is susposed to look like.