Lehigh Anthracite Coal

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Re: Lehigh Anthracite Coal

PostBy: Pacowy On: Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:36 pm

No shortage of suitable offloading equipment around here. If you have takers for the coal there will be someone to handle it.

Mike
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Re: Lehigh Anthracite Coal

PostBy: joeq On: Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:26 pm

Bingo. And there's the problem. I know Scott has been trying for a few seasons to get people interested in Lehigh, but hasn't been successful...yet. This year had potential, but we haven't been able to find someone with a forktruck willing to help. Renting one "un-sweetens" the pot of the savings accrued from a TT load.
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Re: Lehigh Anthracite Coal

PostBy: LehighanthraciteMatt On: Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:41 am

Pacowy wrote:No shortage of suitable offloading equipment around here. If you have takers for the coal there will be someone to handle it.

Mike

Round them up ! :D
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Re: Lehigh Anthracite Coal

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:45 am

If I have ~23 tons of anthracite pea dropped in my back yard, and I have no walled in confinement for it, how big an area would I need to tarp off in advance of the delivery for this coal drop?
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

Re: Lehigh Anthracite Coal

PostBy: joeq On: Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:21 am

23 tons I believe is a "lot" of coal Issy. I didn't know 1 truck could haul that much, at 1 time. I can picture a pallet for coal stacked 5' high. If 1 pallet is about 16 sq/ft, multiply that by 23, and come out with almost 400 sq/ft, 5' high. What is that, about a 20' square?
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Re: Lehigh Anthracite Coal

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:22 am

I got this one :)

I use two of the heavier 20 x 30 tarps, overlapping them along the 30' side. It ends up being close to 40 X 30. A 30 x 30 would be perfect. A 50 x 30 lets you pull the excess tarp over the top to keep it dry. If you dump on one end. The 30' wide is necessary when they dump there is nothing to keep it from spreading out. it goes to 3-4' from edges.
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Re: Lehigh Anthracite Coal

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:34 am

Hey Larry,
Lehigh can put whatever tonage that makes a full load for whatever trailer bed...into the woven nylon 2000# tote bags.

I know *Scottscoaled* and others have had experience with trailer loads handled this way...skip the tarps and having tied up valuable real estate for the years it takes to burn through it all.

Swing a deal w/ a local farmer to get it unloaded.
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Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE
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Re: Lehigh Anthracite Coal

PostBy: LehighanthraciteMatt On: Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:35 am

joeq wrote:23 tons I believe is a "lot" of coal Issy. I didn't know 1 truck could haul that much, at 1 time. I can picture a pallet for coal stacked 5' high. If 1 pallet is about 16 sq/ft, multiply that by 23, and come out with almost 400 sq/ft, 5' high. What is that, about a 20' square?

Issy was talking bulk, but yes even bagged we generally fit 23 or 24 ton per load
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Re: Lehigh Anthracite Coal

PostBy: joeq On: Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:46 am

Matt, I know Issy was talking bulk, I was just trying to visualize it compared to a bagged pallet. I know a TT can haul many pallets or skids of bagged coal, but the trucks I've seen hauling bulk, look more like dump trucks, than a 50" TT. But you say they have trucks hauling bulk that'll do 23 tons? Are they tri-axle?
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Re: Lehigh Anthracite Coal

PostBy: Pacowy On: Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:50 am

joeq,

Bulk coal occupies about 39-40 cubic feet per ton, so a pile 5' deep that was about 14x14 would weigh 23 tons.

The "tall" pallets you're talking about would normally have like 1.2 tons of bags on them - 20 pallets would provide 24 tons and should fit on a 45'+ trailer.

Triaxles travelling interstate in the northeast normally max out on weight a little under 22 tons. Dump trailers can do around 24 tons.

Mike
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Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
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Re: Lehigh Anthracite Coal

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:10 pm

On a tarp it look like this
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520, 700, Van Wert 800 GJ 61,53
Baseburners & Antiques: Magic Stewart 16, times 2!
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck
Other Heating: Slant Fin electric boiler backup

Re: Lehigh Anthracite Coal

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:32 pm

Scottscoaled wrote:On a tarp it look like this
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Thanks!!!
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

Re: Lehigh Anthracite Coal

PostBy: joeq On: Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:30 pm

Whoa! Now that's one big A$$ truck. Never seen one. Thanks for posting.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: G111, Southard Robertson
Stove/Furnace Make: Thermopride
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Re: Lehigh Anthracite Coal

PostBy: LehighanthraciteMatt On: Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:37 am

joeq wrote:Whoa! Now that's one big A$$ truck. Never seen one. Thanks for posting.

That pile of coal is a beautiful site isn't it :D
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Re: Lehigh Anthracite Coal

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:47 am

Always nice to keep our coal brothers amused! It's Lehigh rice of course. Roof off, three stones moved .. replace ... up for coffee. Call justify008, load the nut into the gravity wagon and we are done. It's not easy to set it up but once you are there, CHEAP heat forever. LOVE that stuff. You mean people chop up trees for heat??? Get outta here. :) :)
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