AHS 130

AHS 130

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:19 pm

Does anyone have any pics or video of one running? Maybe a small tutorial of one? All I can find are illustrations on YouTube..

How many days on the hopper and ash tub during middle of winter? 3-5 days? Pounds?

Thanks!
hotblast1357
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: New Yorker WC 90
Coal Size/Type: anthracite pea
Other Heating: oil furnace

Re: AHS 130

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:38 pm

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=coal+gun

They are a modified design of the mighty Axeman Anderson Anthratube. Quite a few members on here can share their experience with the S130.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: AHS 130

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Oct 09, 2016 10:48 pm

Roughly 330 lbs. of coal are contained in the combined hopper and fire tube. I'd guess about 260 to perhaps 270 lbs. in the hopper proper. Most I've ever burned in one day is 105 lbs. when it hit -17 degrees here. It could come right close to surviving 3 such full days in succession without a feeding.

The ash tub is huge. I generally swap my ash tubs out for every 260 to 280 lbs. of coal consumed, but the tub is only at most 2/3 full at that juncture. To get the ash tub closer to full would probably (and I'm guessing here) require the burning of about 400 to 420 lbs. of coal. Thats 4 days with -17 degrees for the low in my case.

The only adjustment it has is to set the ashing (stokes by ashing) temperature on (what I refer to as the) ash sled. Calling it a grate would in my opinion be a great injustice. It could perhaps crush ash grates and spit them out into the ash tub. It certainly laughs at and spits out clinkers, regardless of size.

A video wouldn't show you very much. There isn't a fire chamber door that you can open to see flames in the fire pot as for conventional boilers. In fact, it doesn't have a fire pot, as it burns coal in more of a "fire tube". With coal in the gravity hopper above, at best you might see the coals get red and witness the blue lady flames at the lower level of the "flapper" (port cover), but often mine only has black coal sitting at that level (which is often just above the fire level). Best opportunity to see the blue ladies and the orange glow is immediately after a firing session.

Boring but reliable and hands off heat (year round for my case). Gotta love it.

The biggest oddity perhaps is that if you are planning to shut it down in the summer months it takes 22 days for the completely full hopper and the fire tube to run out of coal, as it only burns about 13.5 lbs. per day (in my case) to provide our home with DHW. So my shutdown planning requires that I stop feeding it 22 days before fire out, and 23 days before cleaning day.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

Re: AHS 130

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:57 am

Thanks Larry! Sounds like the best video would be when it's not lit, maybe with a shot from under the bottom to see the ash grate and what not, it sounds very durable, I'd just like to see it. I'm deff thinking this is going to be my best best for a stoker for my new house build. I would plan on running it all year for sure.
hotblast1357
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: New Yorker WC 90
Coal Size/Type: anthracite pea
Other Heating: oil furnace

Re: AHS 130

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:44 am

Durable is an understatement. :)
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: AHS 130

PostBy: cabinover On: Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:14 pm

cabinover
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Hybrid Axeman Anderson 130
Baseburners & Antiques: Sparkle #12
Coal Size/Type: Pea, Buckwheat, Nut
Other Heating: LP Hot air. WA TX for coal use.

Re: AHS 130

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:29 pm

HB,

How does it sound to never tote an ash pan again someday?

Since you are doing new construction you might do like this chap and add a de-ashing auger to automatically move the ashes outside to a pile or a container. Just build a pit in the floor under where the stoker is parked with a buried pipe and auger like in the picture.

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McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: AHS 130

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:40 pm

Here are two different hopper styles.
And the Square hopper model is sporting the optional direct drive fan...some prefer the belt drive still.

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McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: AHS 130

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:47 pm

Thanks for the pics! Trust me auger feed and removal are in my mind!
hotblast1357
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: New Yorker WC 90
Coal Size/Type: anthracite pea
Other Heating: oil furnace

Re: AHS 130

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:02 pm

I'm still leery of the direct drive fan option. The motor is too close to the heat, so the fan shaft tends to get hot and it prematurely burns out the motors front bearing. Take my advice and get the option which moves the motor well away from the heat and adds the drive belt.

There is only the rectangular hopper style available unless you buy a used model made pre about 2007 or 2008. The round hopper stands much taller, and virtually demands auger feed, or climbing a ladder. The rectangular hopper is low enough to feed by hand via pails. They are not interchangeable.

The newest models are lower still vs. mine. They have lowered the ashing area and dropped the height of the entire unit thereby. The downside of this is a smaller ash tub.
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lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

Re: AHS 130

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:25 pm

If auger feed is important, I would take a hard look at an Axeman as well.

I'm with Larry, go with the belt driven fan for the S130.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: AHS 130

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:27 pm

Thanks Larry, I would probably have a ash auger anyways, if my plans go right I will be buying a new unit when the time comes.
hotblast1357
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: New Yorker WC 90
Coal Size/Type: anthracite pea
Other Heating: oil furnace

Re: AHS 130

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:28 pm

Here's a peek inside the sight tube with the flapper pushed aside:

Pea Coal doing it's job...

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McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: AHS 130

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:49 pm

Now for the Axeman-Anderson side of things:
Note: This is another members, not mine.

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Automatic coal delivery in with each ashing cycle out.
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McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: AHS 130

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:44 am

I like the axeman option also, well see what comes along deal wise.
hotblast1357
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: New Yorker WC 90
Coal Size/Type: anthracite pea
Other Heating: oil furnace