Subaru Engine Issues.

Re: Subaru Engine Issues.

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu. Nov. 17, 2016 6:41 am

SMITTY wrote:Holy crrapper -- I can't even get that out of a 4-cylinder! It must be very flat, and tail-windy where you live. :D


Yep. Also very few MA drivers to deal with.
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Re: Subaru Engine Issues.

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu. Nov. 17, 2016 8:55 am

SMITTY wrote:Holy crrapper -- I can't even get that out of a 4-cylinder! It must be very flat, and tail-windy where you live. :D


Driver habits make a big difference too....i can get 50mpg while the spouse can only get 40 driving the same route with the tdi. My brakes & tires on the truck last close to 80k while her acadia's get changed at about 40k. She drives like she is qualifying for a nascar race.

I have been looking at the Subaru's too since we are getting an offer I can't refuse on the tdi. I wish the epa would let vw sell tdi's I would buy another in a second.
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Re: Subaru Engine Issues.

PostBy: alpineboard On: Thu. Nov. 17, 2016 10:08 am

Believe the origin of the 2.5 came from the 2.2, so when an increase in cylinder diameter came with the 2.5, so the gasket area decreased, think the valves got a little bigger as well. So, less gasket , earlier failure. That said, all head gaskets go sometime. With subarus, it is best to remove the engine to do the head gaskets. And the most important part of doing these head gaskets is to do the tightening procedure correctly. Some guys go thru the whole job, and it is a big one, and they do not follow the procedure, the car comes back in under 5k with them leaking again. Did my 2000 outback 100 k ago and the gaskets are bone dry still, also, change your oil and anti freeze at proper intervals. If you do not, this is what eats the gaskets.

All that said, I like them, to me they are the most economical awd choice, despite the head gasket situation. I wash/spray them off before I go in the house, if they have been out in salt. With hot water from the coal boiler.

Was riding a 97 legacy 2.2liter with 135 k miles, was getting to a , lets look for another one this past summer, and after looking at several over a few weeks, scored a 98 legacy gt trim package 2.5, (no turbos), do not want them any way. Get this, it had 43,000 miles, single owner, all 4 tires new, all 4 new pads and top end rotors. $3000
Now , here is a tip, that has worked for me, sometimes subarus have a valve tick, crank bearing noise, on start up , and kind of goes away after warm up. A friend who hauls coal from NY harbor to Bow, NH power plant told me. He saves big money on his diesel motor rebuilds, by extending the miles from 200k to 300k, and swears by it. Lucas engine oil additive, I use Mobil 1 extended and lucas, either 3 parts to 1 part, or 2 parts to 2 parts. The noise disappeared when The lucas was used. Really.

And on the 2008 to 2009 Subaru lineartronic drive train, its a snowmobile clutch, with a woven metal belt. They are breaking and there is no fix but to replace the entire unit. To the tune of $6 to $8k, ouch. The older drive trains were the same situation of hard to repair , just replace, but at least they did not malfunction. be careful.
One more, PB Blaster corrosion stop, oil and wax with heptane in a spray can, 5 or 6 cans and your good on the underneath. Spray it and find a nice dusty dirt road to drive it on, the dirt locks it in for life. Even when sprayed with very hot water, it does not come off. Big fan.
Oh, and the timing belt every 110k miles, and while your in there, do the water pump... and sundries.
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Re: Subaru Engine Issues.

PostBy: 009to090 On: Sat. Nov. 19, 2016 3:10 am

My wife's '04 Outback has 130k miles on it. Slight oil weep from under one head. No oil consumption. Slight valve tick since it was new. Drives like new.
My '03 Outback has 100k miles on it. Just getting ready to replace timing belt. No leaks. No oil consumption.

Change your fluids on schedule.
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Re: Subaru Engine Issues.

PostBy: rberq On: Sat. Nov. 19, 2016 9:20 am

009to090 wrote:Change your fluids on schedule.

What schedule? I was always one to change my oil at 3,000 miles, which was probably good for my 18-year-old car. My new car's computer bases oil changes on driving, and tells me 10,000 miles is about right, but I don't know whether to trust that.
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Re: Subaru Engine Issues.

PostBy: alpineboard On: Mon. Nov. 21, 2016 9:15 am

when doing that mobil one ext with the lucas additive, oil is still clean at 5000 miles, sometimes I change it at 6000, sometimes go to 8000. Mobile one ext states 15000, but am not doing that. But even at 6000 to 8000, the oil is still not that dirty. So even though it cost twice as much, you get twice the miles from it , so it the same $/mile. w/o the extra oil change, whats your time worth?

10,000 because the computer tells you? Does the computer know what kind of oil you use, standard or synthetic? no way should you do 10k with standard cheap oil.
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Re: Subaru Engine Issues.

PostBy: rberq On: Mon. Nov. 21, 2016 12:23 pm

alpineboard wrote:10,000 because the computer tells you? Does the computer know what kind of oil you use, standard or synthetic? no way should you do 10k with standard cheap oil.

The computer assumes 0-20 synthetic because that's what the manufacturer calls for. The computer also knows engine temperatures and speeds and loads, outside temperatures, cold starts, etc. etc. etc. All that is good in theory.

On my first cars, in the 1960s, 500-mile oil changes were the norm. Then it was disconcerting to jump to 3,000-mile intervals. :o But the engines were fine with that. 20 years ago Consumer Reports did an extensive test of engine oils in NY City taxis. They found standard oil to be good for at least 7500 miles for normal driving. They called it a tough test because the taxis had a lot of stop and go and rough use and were almost never shut down, but I'm not sure whether that is tougher or easier than starting from cold several times a day. On the other hand, engine manufacturing tolerances are supposedly tighter now than 20 years ago, and synthetic oils are probably better. So I have settled on about 7,500 miles to change oil, and feel pretty comfortable with that. If it was OK 20 years ago it's probably even more OK now. I'll let you know how it works out after another 300,000 miles. :)

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Re: Subaru Engine Issues.

PostBy: titleist1 On: Mon. Nov. 21, 2016 3:32 pm

One suggestion is to start sending samples for used oil analysis and after 3 or 4 changes you can have the results tell you if your interval is too long, too short or juuuust right.

Or just watch the on line forums for the same car model as yours and see what the consensus oil change analysis indicates is a good interval for your car on a particular type of oil. although its not your specific driving habits or conditions , but it may be good enough.
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Re: Subaru Engine Issues.

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon. Nov. 21, 2016 4:38 pm

The new Subaru naturally aspirated engines are pretty easy on oil.

My 3.6 holds 7 qts of oil. I change it at the factory recommended 6k interval, but would not be surprised if it can go double that...especially with my 38 mile commute.
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Re: Subaru Engine Issues.

PostBy: rberq On: Mon. Nov. 21, 2016 4:49 pm

Rob R. wrote:My 3.6 holds 7 qts of oil. I change it at the factory recommended 6k interval, but would not be surprised if it can go double that...especially with my 38 mile commute.

That's a lot of oil. :!:
Most of my driving is done between 35 and 55 MPH, with very few trips less than 9 miles. The computer must think that's good because it consistently recommends 10K changes.
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Re: Subaru Engine Issues.

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Mon. Nov. 21, 2016 5:12 pm

Subaru recently added a low oil level light, not just a low oil pressure light. This was done to alleviate buyer fears/concerns and future class-action lawsuits.
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Re: Subaru Engine Issues.

PostBy: Dakotaguy On: Sun. Jan. 15, 2017 11:52 am

We just bought a new 16 outback we love it our old outback had almost 300
Thousand on it before it was hit and totaled was a great car had no issues
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Re: Subaru Engine Issues.

PostBy: rberq On: Sun. Jan. 15, 2017 12:04 pm

Dakotaguy wrote:We just bought a new 16 outback we love it our old outback had almost 300
Thousand on it before it was hit and totaled was a great car had no issues

What year was the old one? Never had the head gaskets replaced? Or did you not own it for the whole 300K, and somebody else might have done it?
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Re: Subaru Engine Issues.

PostBy: Logs On: Sun. Jan. 15, 2017 12:14 pm

We have been married 33 years and in that time my wife has had 3 cars , 87 3 door hatchback, 97 outback sport, 2011 outback sport. Great cars, like someone said brakes and oil changes. They have all been sticks. Best one in my opinion was the 87, had a transfer case with high and low range. That car would go anywhere. I drove it the first 6 months , put on 26,000 driving to work in WV, 96 miles one way. My biggest problem with them now is with my crippled up body I have a hard time getting in and out. :?
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Re: Subaru Engine Issues.

PostBy: Dakotaguy On: Sun. Jan. 15, 2017 1:56 pm

The old one was a 2002 outback bought it with 40 thousand on it from a old couple had heads and timing belt done at 170 thousand hopefully the new one is just as good
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