Keystoker 90

 
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Post by WNY » Sun. Dec. 11, 2016 7:16 am

it's advanced features, that may not be in the manual.

IT takes a 10-15 seconds to get the advanced menu to come up on the screen. The screen will say SETUP, THEN FEED and KEEP HOLDING IT until the TEMP Comes sup. then Press the ? MENU and scroll thru it to HLF. hit the up arrow to set, then press the ? MENU button until EXIT, press UP arrow to save.

Here's some of the features, it says they moved the HLF to the advanced menu.
Coal-Trol V3 Firmware Features


 
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Post by xandrew245x » Sun. Dec. 11, 2016 9:18 am

THANK YOU! I had no Idea there was anything beyond feed, I found it as well as a whole bunch of other settings.

Woke up this morning to it running at 99%, temp was 2 degrees below set point, I was burning the fireplace yesterday so i'm not sure if the extra heat threw off the stove, usually when it runs at 99% for a while the 8" duct gets fairly warm as well as the stove pipe, and they weren't very hot which leads me to believe it just reached 99% not to long ago.

 
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Post by xandrew245x » Mon. Dec. 12, 2016 7:23 am

Yesterday we stayed below freezing all day here. The keystoker was at max feed until about noon then it backed off and idled until about 8pm. I'm finding a problem is that once the sun goes down, the temp in my house drops fairly quick then the keystoker is way behind and has to really play catch up to get the temps back up, this usually results in it running full blast all night. During the day it seems to have no issue reaching temp.

This morning it is 32, and I was at temp when I woke up, feed rate is backing down no, it should idle all day then. When I get home from work should I Just bump the temp up one to get the feed rate up in preparation for night time?

I'm going to get a hour meter and tie into the stoker motor to get a reading of how much coal I use daily and how often it is running.

 
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Post by xandrew245x » Mon. Dec. 12, 2016 3:34 pm

So I was thinking of a way that I could get more air traveling through my cold air returns. Would it be possible to build a box around my blower and hard duct it to my return plenum?
Would I see any real gains from this, or would a simple hard duct off the return plenum to near the blower be enough?

Thursday the lows are going to be in the teens, so this will be the first real test of how it does.

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Mon. Dec. 12, 2016 4:09 pm

Yes, if you connect to the cold air return, you will see a difference. And yes, you can build a box around your blower.

 
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Post by xandrew245x » Tue. Dec. 13, 2016 7:38 am

I ran an 8" line off my plenum to the back of the stove, I think it is still pulling the majority of the air from the basement however.

It was down to 26 last night and I woke up again to it being behind with the feed rate maxed. I changes the Hlf to 1 but haven't seen any noticeable difference. I think the issue is it's been warmer during they day, but once the sun goes down it gets cold fairly quick then m trying house starts losing more heat, it takes a while to reach the point that it calls for heat. It takes hours for the stove to get up to temp then, and by that time the temp is the house has dropped a considerable amount.

I opened the convection fan intake some more to see if I get a hotter burn, at 99 feed rate its about 2" back from the edge of the grate, so I turned the stoker adjustment in about half a turn. Stove temp on the side was about 550 degrees.

Im going to try something different, during the day I'll have it set at 71, then around 2pm I'll bump it to 73 so it starts feeding. Hopefully this will allow it to level out for the night time.

 
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Post by WNY » Tue. Dec. 13, 2016 6:26 pm

with the COALTROL, you should max our the Stoker adjustment screw CW in and let the coaltrol adjust the feed. At Full burn and FR99, you should have about 1" or less of ash without pushing hot coals off, if you are, then the MAX value has to come down a point or two. if not, then it goes up a point or two, only adjust 1-2 points at time and let it settle out.


 
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Post by xandrew245x » Tue. Dec. 13, 2016 6:48 pm

Thanks wny, I'll adjust it back in then check it in the morning.

 
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Post by xandrew245x » Wed. Dec. 14, 2016 4:34 pm

I'm starting to believe my coaltrol thermostat is not reading temps right. I had it set at 71, and I came home and all my other thermostats read 67 or less while my coaltroal was saying 71. This is causing major issues with keeping my house at a consistent temperature.

 
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Post by xandrew245x » Thu. Dec. 15, 2016 5:38 pm

Came home today and the house was 67 in most placees, checked the t-stat and it was feeding at 99%. Noticed there wasn't very warm air coming from the vents. Went down and the stove room wasn't very warm. Stove temp was only 400 on the side. The ash pan was full and caused the ash to bridge and the coal to overfill the grate. Cleared most of it off and now I have a nice tall blue flame agian.

 
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Post by WNY » Thu. Dec. 15, 2016 5:49 pm

YUP! that happens if you forget to empty it....been there.

 
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Post by xandrew245x » Thu. Dec. 15, 2016 6:05 pm

I guess I'm going to have to swap it out morning and evening, I leveled out my coal and my ash this morning, I have been okay at once a day.

 
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Post by xandrew245x » Thu. Dec. 15, 2016 7:36 pm

I know we had been talking about output temps off the stove, and I remembered I had a digital barbecue thermometer. I stuck it in a hole on the take off collar where it goes into my ductwork, this is about 12' of pipe away from the stove itself. Stove is running at 500 degrees on the side, and the thermometer is showing 135 degrees.

 
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Post by 2001Sierra » Thu. Dec. 15, 2016 9:08 pm

My keystoker 90 is showing about 132 in the duct work off the top and the chimney temp is 250. Both thermometers are probe type. Stove is at 99% feed rate, 2 inches of ash on grate, flames touching the top of the stove.
I could set the feed rate up a little with the adjustment rod on the feed plate and the maximum rate in the coal-trol is set back alittle from factory default but I am fine with the performance.

 
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Post by xandrew245x » Thu. Dec. 15, 2016 9:12 pm

I'm holding steady at 140, I have a bout 1" of ash on the end. I think my max feed is set at 79, with the plate adjusted the whole way in.


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