Coal for Wood Cook Stove

 
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Post by Photog200 » Sat. Dec. 10, 2016 2:06 pm

Judging by that last photo, I would say you have a wood grate sitting on top of the coal grates. In order to burn coal in it efficiently, you would have to take that wood grate out so the coal can sit directly onto those prismatic or dockash style grates.

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Post by Sunny Boy » Sat. Dec. 10, 2016 2:19 pm

I'm suspecting "duplex", or what some call, "combo" grates. Maybe it's the angle, but the way those grate teeth are hanging look too narrow to me to be triangular grates ????

A Dockash grate bar is a grid that usually looks like a railroad track.

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Post by tree » Sun. Dec. 11, 2016 8:10 am

no not warped or cracked more than likely the angle of the photos.. I checked them and did pics at 2 different settings of the plates.. so where can I get coal?

Still need to know if anyone knows WHERE I can get good COAL in Richland county Ohio area???

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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Dec. 11, 2016 9:48 am

Defiantly a "Summer", or wood plate over those grate bars. Nice to have such a rare part for a range. .

But, boy I missed it again. And having a wood plate adds to the likelihood of them not being duplex grates :oops: Now that I can see them, those grate bars look more like a modified version of Dockash grates.

I find it interesting how they got rid of the square corners in the firebox. Areas that don't burn, or clear ash quite as well as the rest of the firebox does,.... and curved the grate bar ends to match.

Give those grates a half turn every morning before shaking ashes of an overnight fire and they should do a good job of grinding and busting up clinkers before they can become a problem.

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Post by SWPaDon » Sun. Dec. 11, 2016 10:15 am

Paul, I took another look at the picture on page one of the grates. It looks like the one in the pic is slightly warped. look at the left side of the picture.

 
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Post by Photog200 » Sun. Dec. 11, 2016 10:35 am

SWPaDon wrote:Paul, I took another look at the picture on page one of the grates. It looks like the one in the pic is slightly warped. look at the left side of the picture.
I thought the same thing and it looks to have a crack in it too. (4th tooth from the left)

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Post by SWPaDon » Sun. Dec. 11, 2016 10:38 am

Photog200 wrote:
SWPaDon wrote:Paul, I took another look at the picture on page one of the grates. It looks like the one in the pic is slightly warped. look at the left side of the picture.
I thought the same thing and it looks to have a crack in it too. (4th tooth from the left)

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By golly, I think your right.


 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Dec. 11, 2016 10:44 am

SWPaDon wrote:Paul, I took another look at the picture on page one of the grates. It looks like the one in the pic is slightly warped. look at the left side of the picture.
Yeah, looks like it's got a bit of a wave at the left end. I don't think it's enough to interfere with the proper functioning of the grates. As long as there's no cracks they should be ok to use.

If it were my stove,....... with such a rare set of grates, I'd use it this season, making sure to turn them at least 180 degrees once every morning to keep the wear and heat stress evened out. Then send both grate bars out next summer to Tomahawk to have a recast set made to use. Then store the original grate bars to only be used for future patterns for recasts. Good, original grate bars, that can be used as recasting patterns, are one of the most valuable parts for keeping the stove going ! ;)

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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Dec. 11, 2016 10:49 am

I don't think that's a crack - at least I sure hope not ! :shock:

I think it's a shadow from the end of where one of the cross bar ends alternately sticks out. If the flash is to the right of the camera lens it'll throw a shadow there that it won't at the other end.

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Post by Photog200 » Sun. Dec. 11, 2016 2:48 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:I don't think that's a crack - at least I sure hope not ! :shock:

I think it's a shadow from the end of where one of the cross bar ends alternately sticks out. If the flash is to the right of the camera lens it'll throw a shadow there that it won't at the other end.

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I was just looking at the photo on my phone so I could be mistaken about the crack. I would certainly have a set of grates made for it like Paul said. My grates are the same type of grates and I cannot turn the grates 180° or I dump coal. Unfortunately my stove never bridges. I have not had any problems with them warping as long as I keep the ash pan emptied. I did have a new set of grates made for it and have the originals on the shelf just in case.
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Dec. 11, 2016 3:35 pm

Randy,
You can't turn the grates 180 degrees without dumping the fire, even with a deep bed of ashes after a long, overnight burn ?

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Post by Photog200 » Sun. Dec. 11, 2016 4:36 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:Randy,
You can't turn the grates 180 degrees without dumping the fire, even with a deep bed of ashes after a long, overnight burn ?

Paul
No, have tried it and dumped the whole bed into the ash pan. Had to start all over. :mad:

 
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Post by corey » Sun. Dec. 11, 2016 5:59 pm

Photog200 wrote:
Sunny Boy wrote:Randy,
You can't turn the grates 180 degrees without dumping the fire, even with a deep bed of ashes after a long, overnight burn ?

Paul
No, have tried it and dumped the whole bed into the ash pan. Had to start all over. :mad:
I have the same exact problem with my current stove.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Dec. 11, 2016 7:32 pm

That's too bad that type grate has such a gap while turning that they dump too much.

I wonder if it would work if the ash pan was left partially full, would the grates still be able to turn 180 degrees, but not dump as much ???

One of the benefits of the triangular grates is when they are rotated, the gap is not that wide. But then it only takes a smaller piece of unburned coal, or stone, to jam them open.

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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Dec. 11, 2016 7:38 pm

tree wrote:no not warped or cracked more than likely the angle of the photos.. I checked them and did pics at 2 different settings of the plates.. so where can I get coal?

Still need to know if anyone knows WHERE I can get good COAL in Richland county Ohio area???
Tree,
Pm your Ohio moderator, member Hambden Bob. He might be able to tell you, or possibly be able to put you in touch with other Ohio members closer to you that know where to get coal in your area.

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