please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

PostBy: syncmaster On: Mon May 12, 2008 9:14 pm

I was doing alot of reading and I came across something that says 1ton of coal = 100 gal of oil.
So if i use 1000 gal of oil a year does that mean I will use 10tons of coal?

If you have already switched to a coal boiler and you used to heat with oil please list amounts used below.
even though some winters are colder or warmer it should sill be a good ball-park comparison.

Thanks for your input,
syncmaster
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: harmanVF3000 Coal/oil option
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: VF3000
Stove/Furnace Model: Harman VF3000

Re: please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Mon May 12, 2008 9:20 pm

It depends upon the efficiencies of both appliances but I believe the number is closer to 170 gallons of oil for a ton of coal as a rule of thumb. Look online for some calculators that allow you to enter various efficiencies.
CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

PostBy: vtec350 On: Mon May 12, 2008 10:00 pm

Here's a chart I found on Alternative Heating Systems web site for a comparison


http://www.alternateheatingsystems.com/ ... atives.htm
vtec350
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: KA-6


Re: please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Mon May 12, 2008 10:09 pm

More like 180 gallons of oil. Oil is about 138,000 BTUs per gallon, anthracite runs about 13,500+ BTUs per pound. If oil is at $3.90 a gallon, with the current price of coal it would run you about $0.80-1.75 for the same BTU content. Clearer now?

At 1000 gallons of oil, you are looking at 10,222 pounds. Just over 5 tons.
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Mon May 12, 2008 10:13 pm

Here is another link with efficiency and dollar values.



Gross heat values for a ton of coal.
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CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon May 12, 2008 10:38 pm

It's about 180 gallon+ gallons depending on the coal, one ton of anthracite is going to be in the neighborhood of 24 to 25 million BTU's but can go as high as 28 million.


http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/experts/heatcalc.xls


You'll need excel for using the dicument above, if you don't have excel you can download Openoffice for free: http://www.openoffice.org/
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

PostBy: JohnnyAsbury On: Tue May 13, 2008 5:35 am

That is an excellent fuel calculator !
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: 90 - Direct vent

Re: please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue May 13, 2008 5:49 am

JohnnyAsbury wrote:That is an excellent fuel calculator !


Thank Yanche, he brought it to my attention.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

PostBy: BIG BEAM On: Sat May 17, 2008 6:10 pm

Well that sounds about right.I used to burn 1300-1400 gals of oil and now I go through 7 or 8 tons of coal.There was another site it was like chevnosky coal I don't think I spelled it right that said 186 gals to a ton.
DON
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Stove/Furnace Make: USS Hot blast
Stove/Furnace Model: 1557M

Re: please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

PostBy: BIG BEAM On: Sat May 17, 2008 6:14 pm

OH one more thing we used to keep the house at 72 now with coal it's more like 75 or a little more on thoes cold days :D
DON
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Stove/Furnace Make: USS Hot blast
Stove/Furnace Model: 1557M

Re: please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat May 17, 2008 6:22 pm

BIG BEAM wrote:There was another site it was like chevnosky coal I don't think I spelled it right that said 186 gals to a ton.


That would be my old coaldelivery.com site I no longer have, its spelled Chervenitski and I'm no longer in the business. I have two other reltives still doing it but there is only one that has site and they don't have a BTU chart.

Might be someone with similar name too but I'm not aware of anyone.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

PostBy: BIG BEAM On: Sat May 17, 2008 9:01 pm

Well don't I feel like an @ss
DON
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Stove/Furnace Make: USS Hot blast
Stove/Furnace Model: 1557M

Re: please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

PostBy: OverRunWithSons On: Fri May 30, 2008 10:02 am

I am a complete Newbie in this area, we was thinking of getting a wood Coal outdoor furnace, but also looking into this, I see how about 180 gallons of oil = 1 ton of this Anthracite coal. But what about If you have your Coal furance in the Shed outside or the garage at 130 feet away , and not the Basement...... Surely the efficientcy for this set up is much less ???? Can anyone comment on about how much COAL I may have to use -old farmhouse not well insulated--with this kind of setup. We use about 700 gallons of Oil a year --air furced oil furance-- keeping thermostat at about 68 degrees. Anthracite coal in my area costs $200 a ton (Western PA). Worth it for me? :?:
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Re: please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Fri May 30, 2008 12:05 pm

OverRunWithSons wrote:I am a complete Newbie in this area, we was thinking of getting a wood Coal outdoor furnace, but also looking into this, I see how about 180 gallons of oil = 1 ton of this Anthracite coal. But what about If you have your Coal furance in the Shed outside or the garage at 130 feet away , and not the Basement...... Surely the efficientcy for this set up is much less ???? Can anyone comment on about how much COAL I may have to use -old farmhouse not well insulated--with this kind of setup. We use about 700 gallons of Oil a year --air furced oil furance-- keeping thermostat at about 68 degrees. Anthracite coal in my area costs $200 a ton (Western PA). Worth it for me? :?:


I hope you mean a boiler not a furnace. It could not be done with a furnace. Outdoor water heaters are seriously inefficient. Yes, it will save you a lot of money. About 4 tons if the boiler (you could use a hot air furnace there but I still would recommend a boiler instead) is in the basement, maybe 5 tons if it is 130' away from the home. These numbers would be for a regular coal furnace/boiler, an outdoor water heater would add a ton or two consumption at the very least. I would find a way to get a real boiler into the home, you will spend a fortune running a lot of expensive plumbing and lose a warm basement and floors. It isn't just efficiency you are giving up with an off site install, the ambiance is priceless. I had a drafty, cold house years ago, now I just put up with the wife opening the windows now and again complaining about the heat. :)

I shut mine down last week and the cellar now feels cold, does that tell you anything?
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: please list your annual coal usage VS. oil usage

PostBy: 1975gt750 On: Fri May 30, 2008 7:51 pm

i used 600 gallons a year to make heat and hot water with oil . with coal it looks like i am going to burn about 3.5 tons of coal. i am using a keystoker kaa-2 plumbed in series with my oil burner

chris
1975gt750
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: keystoker kaa-2
Coal Size/Type: rice coal / blaschak
Other Heating: pensotti oil boiler with riello 40 burner
Stove/Furnace Make: keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: kaa-2