Fireplace with cracked liner

Fireplace with cracked liner

PostBy: xandrew245x On: Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:34 am

I have a fireplace in my living room, when I bought my house about 5 years ago it was inspected and cleaned. There are several hairline cracks in the flue, so I know it's not safe to burn wood.

But my question is, would it be fine to burn in it for a few hours on Christmas day.
xandrew245x
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: keystoker 90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: aarrow stratford 75
Coal Size/Type: anthracite nut/rice
Other Heating: Oil boiler, fireplace


Re: Fireplace with cracked liner

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:08 am

No offense, but that's an odd question. You tell us it isn't safe to use, then ask us if it is safe to use and it's been 5 years since it was inspected. Anything could have happened in there. :confused:
SWPaDon
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous
Other Heating: Oil furnace

Re: Fireplace with cracked liner

PostBy: xandrew245x On: Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:56 am

I meant it's not safe to use it continuously due to cresote build up and if there was a Chimney fire it would be difficult to put it out due to the cracked liner.

It's been 5 years since it's been inspected, however it has not been used for anything at all since it was last cleaned and inspected.

I guess I should have worded the original post better. I just want to burn in it for an hour or two.
xandrew245x
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: keystoker 90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: aarrow stratford 75
Coal Size/Type: anthracite nut/rice
Other Heating: Oil boiler, fireplace

Re: Fireplace with cracked liner

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:07 pm

Have you opened the damper on it to see if any chunks of liner fall out?
SWPaDon
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous
Other Heating: Oil furnace

Re: Fireplace with cracked liner

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:25 pm

Really can't tell ya squat without some pix of what you're talkin about.
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Re: Fireplace with cracked liner

PostBy: xandrew245x On: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:59 pm

SWPaDon wrote:Have you opened the damper on it to see if any chunks of liner fall out?


It doesn't have a damper, and last year I looked up in and all the tile are intact, just some hairline cracks.
xandrew245x
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: keystoker 90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: aarrow stratford 75
Coal Size/Type: anthracite nut/rice
Other Heating: Oil boiler, fireplace

Re: Fireplace with cracked liner

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:17 pm

xandrew245x wrote:
SWPaDon wrote:Have you opened the damper on it to see if any chunks of liner fall out?


It doesn't have a damper, and last year I looked up in and all the tile are intact, just some hairline cracks.

How do you keep the house air from going up the chimney?
SWPaDon
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous
Other Heating: Oil furnace

Re: Fireplace with cracked liner

PostBy: xandrew245x On: Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:42 pm

It has a cap that closes at the top that is attached by cable to the fireplace, I also have a block of plate installed.
xandrew245x
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: keystoker 90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: aarrow stratford 75
Coal Size/Type: anthracite nut/rice
Other Heating: Oil boiler, fireplace


Re: Fireplace with cracked liner

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:50 pm

xandrew245x wrote:It has a cap that closes at the top that is attached by cable to the fireplace, I also have a block of plate installed.

Interesting.
Can you post pics like FF asked Earlier?
SWPaDon
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous
Other Heating: Oil furnace

Re: Fireplace with cracked liner

PostBy: McGiever On: Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:02 pm

Were you offered a price on a flex liner by this inspector fellow?

Hairline cracks are of no consern in a liner...unless you have a sales job to bait a fish with. :roll:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: Fireplace with cracked liner

PostBy: xandrew245x On: Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:16 pm

McGiever wrote:Were you offered a price on a flex liner by this inspector fellow?

Hairline cracks are of no consern in a liner...unless you have a sales job to bait a fish with. :roll:



Surprisingly he said it wouldn't be worth installing a liner due to the expense and how little it would be used. I feel it was probably more of a liability issue of saying it yeah it's fine to burn it then something happens.

I have an inspection port in my plate I'll take out and look up in and see if anything has changed.

I will get a pic when I get home.
xandrew245x
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: keystoker 90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: aarrow stratford 75
Coal Size/Type: anthracite nut/rice
Other Heating: Oil boiler, fireplace

Re: Fireplace with cracked liner

PostBy: xandrew245x On: Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:04 pm

Without getting on my roof I wouldn't be able to get a good picture, but this is exactly what it looks like.
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I just remembered though when I installed my block off plate I broke the cable so now the damper is open at the top.
xandrew245x
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: keystoker 90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: aarrow stratford 75
Coal Size/Type: anthracite nut/rice
Other Heating: Oil boiler, fireplace

Re: Fireplace with cracked liner

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:18 pm

Interesting setup. I've never seen one before.
SWPaDon
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous
Other Heating: Oil furnace

Re: Fireplace with cracked liner

PostBy: xandrew245x On: Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:30 pm

I did vent my pellet stove into this chimney for about 2 months before I sold the pellet stove, I actually completely forgot about that until I looked in the chimney. I took a peak in and as far up as I can see I can't see any cracks, it is a bit dusty right now, I might buy one of the brushes can clean it and look at it a little better.
xandrew245x
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: keystoker 90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: aarrow stratford 75
Coal Size/Type: anthracite nut/rice
Other Heating: Oil boiler, fireplace

Re: Fireplace with cracked liner

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:02 pm

A hairline crack is nothing. When the tiles open up or pieces start falling out you have a problem.
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