5 gallon buckets

5 gallon buckets

PostBy: coalkirk On: Tue May 13, 2008 8:39 pm

I'm trying to arrange a 20 ton delivery of rice coal. My bin will hold 5 tons if I work at it. I need to store the other 15 tons. I've found 5 galllon buckets to be a good way to store rice coal. They stack well and you can fit alot of coal in a limited area. I was trying to find free or cheap 5 gallon buckets and today called several drywall companies with that request. One called me back today and said they use about 90 buckets per week and would save them for me. I'll have to clean them out but I'm really excited to have found this source. Besides in my coal bin, I think I can store another 5 tons in buckets in my basement adjacent to the boiler. Now I just have to find a way to attractively store the other 10 tons. :roll:
coalkirk
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
Coal Size/Type: antrhcite/rice coal

Re: 5 gallon buckets

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue May 13, 2008 9:06 pm

If you call any construction company they'll have them, however 15 tons is going to be more than 750 of them. :lol: Get a few tarps that have an attractive color (green,brown) and store it under there. You'll probably need a 15ft. X30 tarp if remember correctly for 10 tons.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: 5 gallon buckets

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Tue May 13, 2008 9:12 pm

Try the poly bags. the small ones that measure 18x33". you can easily put 60 lbs in one, more if you like. They stack nice like wood and are easy to fill. If you store them outside you need to cover with a tarp. There's a place in Georgia that sells them for .25 apiece. I use them and they work great. Just dump them in the bin and fold them up. :) Scott
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520x4, 700. Van Wert 1200.
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: EFM 150, Keystoker 150
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck


Re: 5 gallon buckets

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue May 13, 2008 9:15 pm

If I was going to do it bags I'd get those bags used for feed and grain. they fit about 1 ton. I had one customer that used them and they worked quite well.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: 5 gallon buckets

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Tue May 13, 2008 9:22 pm

I use those also. They work well depending on the breaker. How they are filled. They didn't work at Superior, UAE but worked great at Calvin Lenigs. Where it is loaded with a hopper works. You also need a loader or something that will lift 1500-2000 lbs. How do they load at Hudson? I'm ready to try some of theirs. How do you know when they have a good run? :) Scott
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520x4, 700. Van Wert 1200.
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: EFM 150, Keystoker 150
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck

Re: 5 gallon buckets

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue May 13, 2008 9:48 pm

They have pockets with chutes, filling them there probably would not work. The customer I had stored them in his driveway, I'd just back the truck up and dump it into the bag. Move the truck up..repeat.

As far as when a good run is going its like playing the lottery but he quality is always reasonable. They have state contracts so they need to meet specs. Worked out for me because I'd be in at least once a week. If I knew the coal was running real good I'd go in every day for summer fill-ups.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: 5 gallon buckets

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Tue May 13, 2008 10:21 pm

Could they do that with the 24ton load? Fill a one ton bag, move up. That's a pretty interesting idea if they can.I'd go with a big delivery, but constucting a pad and lining it with blocks is so,,,,, permanent for lack of a better word. And expensive now that pavement is running us around $2.00 a square foot. 24 bags at 15-17 bucks a pop. Cheaper if you can find them used. The guy on e-bay sells them used for 5 dollars apiece but hits you 10 dollars for shipping. If you have a loader they aren't such a big deal. I hold mine in the air and squeeze the nozzle on the bottom open and closed with my hands while someone holds the bags underneath. Takes 15-20 minutes to process a big bag.But,,,,,, do the big rig guys take the time, and can they fill the great big bags? :) Scott
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520x4, 700. Van Wert 1200.
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: EFM 150, Keystoker 150
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck

Re: 5 gallon buckets

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue May 13, 2008 10:30 pm

stokerscot wrote:do the big rig guys take the time, and can they fill the great big bags? :) Scott


Certainly not if its going to take 15 minutes per bag, they might if you pay for time. Tell them what you want to do. You will need absolutely level ground to stream line it, not sure if someone driving a tri-axle is going to want to be moving it with the box up even then. When we did them it was about 5 minutes top per bag and that was with 2 people. The bag just sat on the ground, you put a little in to fill out the bottom to get it straight. Then fill it up. Two people to hold the bag open would make it much easier.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: 5 gallon buckets

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Tue May 13, 2008 10:54 pm

So, I guess to really make it happen better it would take a forklift? :) Scott.
Scottscoaled
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520x4, 700. Van Wert 1200.
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: EFM 150, Keystoker 150
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck

Re: 5 gallon buckets

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue May 13, 2008 11:12 pm

Forklift to move it from behind the truck to get it out of the way instead of moving the truck. Like I said tell the trucking company what you want to do so they are aware its going to take while to offload it..
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: 5 gallon buckets

PostBy: Freddy On: Wed May 14, 2008 6:02 am

"Normal" trucking is one or two hours to unload.... About $65 an hour after that. I'd guess a coal trucker is like any other. If he's going to spend time with you, he or she will want to be paid.

If you put coal in poly bags you'll want to tarp over then to keep the sun from eating the bags.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
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Re: 5 gallon buckets

PostBy: coalkirk On: Wed May 14, 2008 7:16 am

stokerscot wrote:Try the poly bags. the small ones that measure 18x33". you can easily put 60 lbs in one, more if you like. They stack nice like wood and are easy to fill. If you store them outside you need to cover with a tarp. There's a place in Georgia that sells them for .25 apiece. I use them and they work great. Just dump them in the bin and fold them up. :) Scott

I like the poly bag idea. Can you give me the name of the place that has them in Ga.??
coalkirk
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
Coal Size/Type: antrhcite/rice coal

Re: 5 gallon buckets

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Wed May 14, 2008 8:03 am

I'll dig that up. Might take a little while. I order mine with a friend who bags grain. :) Scott
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520x4, 700. Van Wert 1200.
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: EFM 150, Keystoker 150
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Re: 5 gallon buckets

PostBy: spc On: Wed May 14, 2008 8:38 am

Bulk Bag Builders/ Garden Storage Sack Poly Used


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Re: 5 gallon buckets

PostBy: Sting On: Wed May 14, 2008 8:47 am

Tell me it isn't so!

You don't really want to load up - move - then store 15 ton in 5 gallon pails??????
Sting
 
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