set up of coal stove

set up of coal stove

PostBy: epd1088 On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:25 am

OK, picked up the Alaska Kast Console III and want to know what do I need to do to set it up correctly and make sure that it is safe to operate. Still need to finish putting it back together but I have a masonry chimney with a circular opening for the stove pipe to go into. Is there anything special that I need to use to put the stove pipe into the chimney? All of the parts appear to be there. Thanks.
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Re: set up of coal stove

PostBy: McGiever On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:17 am

Get and study the Owners/Installation Manual from mfgr's website as there are many details you need to know or be aware of. :idea:
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Re: set up of coal stove

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:52 am

Definitely find the owner's installation manual and study it. Since the chimney already has a thimble - the hole in the wall - there probably isn't much you'll have to do except place the stove the appropriate distance from flammables. However, you may find you'll need a wall heat shield and a hearth pad of some depth and size. It's all in the installation manual. If you have questions after reviewing the manual, come back and ask. Also check out the archives, most of the answers will be there. Good luck, Lisa
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PostBy: coaledsweat On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:18 am

The opening to the chimney is called a thimble, they make an adapter or sometimes the stovepipe itself fits perfect. Measure the opening at the chimney and stove and go to an HVAC supply house, they can sell you a quality commercial stovepipe and whatever else you need. I recommend black pipe. Get a box of screws with it, 3 well spaced in every connection!
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Re: set up of coal stove

PostBy: epd1088 On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:30 am

Already downloaded the manual and there is already a hearth and brick wall built in place for the stove. It came with the stove pipe, damper and thimble connection but I wanted to make sure it was as simple as that and that I didn't need anything else... lol... I read somewhere about a chimney clean out but I don't think I have one of those... I was just going to clean the chimney and go from there...
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Re: set up of coal stove

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:56 am

That clean out should/could be outside at the bottom of the chimney--usually a cast door. At least that's the way it is up here. Yep, ya got a nice simplistic stove there. Enjoy & don't forget, any questions are welcome. :) YES, do clean the chimney.
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Re: set up of coal stove

PostBy: epd1088 On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:58 am

I didn't see one on either of the chimneys... do they all have them?
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Re: set up of coal stove

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:58 am

Is the damper an MPD--(manual pipe damper) ?? PS--not necessarily on the clean out door.
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Re: set up of coal stove

PostBy: epd1088 On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:59 am

I believe it is... it's on the stove pipe and is like a butterfly choke on a carburetor
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Re: set up of coal stove

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:17 am

You may want to put a Barometric Damper on, too. They can be very helpful in keeping an even draft so you get a more even, controlled burn. Check out the search button in the upper right corner for more information. Lisa
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Re: set up of coal stove

PostBy: epd1088 On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:28 am

What does a barometric look like?
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Re: set up of coal stove

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:46 am

Here is a short video of a barometric damper





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Re: set up of coal stove

PostBy: CoalisCoolxWarm On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:55 am

epd1088 wrote:What does a barometric look like?


Edit: ^^ Good post above ^^

Here's a thread that has a pic and all kinds of info about baros.

http://nepacrossroads.com/about2303.html

In a nutshell, it is a device that helps keep your chimney draft exactly where you set it, based on your individual chimney, stove, location, etc...

Your manual will tell you what it *should* be for your model of stove.

They really keep things in line as draft changes- as it will with temp, winds blowing, and tons of other factors. With a proper baro setup, most of those factors will be handled automatically.

You'll need to use a manometer to set it up. Many of us install a Dwyer permanently to monitor the draft for any changing conditions. Sort of like taking the pulse and blood pressure, gives you a quick indication of how "healthy" your stove and fire are at the moment.

Here's a pic of my installation, in a thread loaded with installs: http://nepacrossroads.com/post553110.html?hilit=manometer#p553110
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Re: set up of coal stove

PostBy: epd1088 On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:40 pm

Ok, barometric damper was included in the sale of the stove and is attached to the stove pipe between the stove and the thimble.
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