coal gun s- 130 install

Re: coal gun s- 130 install

PostBy: FirstcoalstokerRon On: Fri May 12, 2017 5:08 pm

Rob R. wrote:
FirstcoalstokerRon wrote:I know its been awhile since I have been on do to my bad health and waiting for my social security check.
All is well now, I have the first three zones plumbed and I am ready to wire the electric to the S - 130, the thermostats and the zone pumps. I am looking for pictures, videos and any advice you can give me and I hope someone can tell me where to find pictures or videos. Your advice is always so helpful. THANKS AGAIN
As I will soon be looking for advice on the DHW and the parts to make it right as well as safe. I WILL BE BACK SOON


Good to hear you have been swingin' some wrenches and getting this hooked up. Are you using a zone control panel for your three zones?


Thanks Rob,
As I said before at one time I had a gas boiler with 2 zones, one was the main house the other was the 28' by 38' spa room. I installed a TACO SR503, it has 3 three zones with one being a primary so I think I can use that . I also read in the coal gun manual that it needs a deducted 15 amp line and I also read that the boiler and the circulators should be on the same circuit. Can u tell me what one is right ??
FirstcoalstokerRon
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S-130
Coal Size/Type: pea/anthracite

Re: coal gun s- 130 install

PostBy: FirstcoalstokerRon On: Fri May 12, 2017 5:08 pm

Rob R. wrote:
FirstcoalstokerRon wrote:I know its been awhile since I have been on do to my bad health and waiting for my social security check.
All is well now, I have the first three zones plumbed and I am ready to wire the electric to the S - 130, the thermostats and the zone pumps. I am looking for pictures, videos and any advice you can give me and I hope someone can tell me where to find pictures or videos. Your advice is always so helpful. THANKS AGAIN
As I will soon be looking for advice on the DHW and the parts to make it right as well as safe. I WILL BE BACK SOON


Good to hear you have been swingin' some wrenches and getting this hooked up. Are you using a zone control panel for your three zones?


Thanks Rob,
As I said before at one time I had a gas boiler with 2 zones, one was the main house the other was the 28' by 38' spa room. I installed a TACO SR503, it has 3 three zones with one being a primary so I think I can use that . I also read in the coal gun manual that it needs a deducted 15 amp line and I also read that the boiler and the circulators should be on the same circuit. Can u tell me what one is right ??
FirstcoalstokerRon
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S-130
Coal Size/Type: pea/anthracite

Re: coal gun s- 130 install

PostBy: FirstcoalstokerRon On: Fri May 12, 2017 5:31 pm

It seems that my last post posted twice and I have no idea what I did wrong. BTW I still must log in each time I come in but s long as I get in I am happy for all the help I get thanks again.
FirstcoalstokerRon
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S-130
Coal Size/Type: pea/anthracite

Re: coal gun s- 130 install

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri May 12, 2017 9:04 pm

15 amps is plenty for the boiler and circulators. I have my oil boiler, coal boiler, and all zone controls/pumps off the same breaker.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: coal gun s- 130 install

PostBy: lzaharis On: Sat May 13, 2017 8:39 am

Just curious,

Did you leave the steel expansion tank alone or did you rip it out?
I hope you left it as all you needed was to hook it up to both boilers
steam chests by teeing them into the airtrol valve.
lzaharis
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KAA-4-1 dual fuel boiler
Coal Size/Type: rice
Other Heating: kerosene for dual fuel Keystoker

Re: coal gun s- 130 install

PostBy: FirstcoalstokerRon On: Sat May 13, 2017 5:11 pm

quote="lzaharis"]Just curious,

Did you leave the steel expansion tank alone or did you rip it out?
I hope you left it as all you needed was to hook it up to both boilers
steam chests by teeing them into the airtrol valve.[/quote]

Hi Larry,
I did not rip it out but I did disconnect the old autofill valve and the steel expansion tank and then bypassed them by installing a new air purger, autofill valve and a AMTROL EX-30 expansion tank.
I plumbed the electric boiler and the COAL GUN byway of a 1.25" copper supply line to the zone valves. I installed ball valves on the supply and return lines so I can use ether of the boilers and bypass the other.
I installed the air purger in the 1.25" copper supply line after the boilers but before the zone valves. I installed a 1/2" tee under the air purger and installed the auto fill valve and ran a 1/2" copper line 6' to the EX-30 bladder tank.
I have only used the electric boiler so far as the COAL GUN install is not done yet, but I did run the return water through the COAL GUN into the electric boiler to the zone valves and all seems to be working,
Next is the DHW install and the electric hook up so much to do and so little time
THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP
IF I did things wrong please feel free to tell me
FirstcoalstokerRon
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S-130
Coal Size/Type: pea/anthracite

Re: coal gun s- 130 install

PostBy: FirstcoalstokerRon On: Sat May 13, 2017 5:18 pm

Rob R. wrote:15 amps is plenty for the boiler and circulators. I have my oil boiler, coal boiler, and all zone controls/pumps off the same breaker.

Thanks Rob,
15 amps it is and I am planning to using 12 gage wire, is that ok ??
FirstcoalstokerRon
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S-130
Coal Size/Type: pea/anthracite

Re: coal gun s- 130 install

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun May 14, 2017 9:04 am

Yes, that will work fine. I ran 12 gauge from my panel to the main boiler switch and zone control, but for each separate run to the circulators, boiler aquastat, etc I used 14 gauge - just because it is easier to handle in small spaces.

Are you using armored cable for everything on/around the boiler?
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: coal gun s- 130 install

PostBy: FirstcoalstokerRon On: Sun May 14, 2017 3:30 pm

Rob R. wrote:Yes, that will work fine. I ran 12 gauge from my panel to the main boiler switch and zone control, but for each separate run to the circulators, boiler aquastat, etc I used 14 gauge - just because it is easier to handle in small spaces.

Are you using armored cable for everything on/around the boiler?


Thanks Rob,
I am planning on using armored cable and 12 gauge wire. I have a main switch about 20 feet away that will shut everything down including the electric boiler, coal gun, zone pumps and all the controls incase something goes wrong.
Once the electric is hooked up ill be researching what I need for the DHW.
I am old and slow but I am having fun if not for u guys i would have gave up a long time ago so THANKS AGAIN and HAPPY MOTHERS DAY to all of you and yours.
FirstcoalstokerRon
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S-130
Coal Size/Type: pea/anthracite