.25 in one shot

.25 in one shot

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Fri May 16, 2008 5:27 pm

Diesel went up from $4.49 last night to $4.75 this morning. Nice increase eh? The next station up the road was still $4.49 so I filled up. Which brings up another subject. The gas station has four islands with gas. Only one island has diesel. Why are the three with out diesel always empty, but the island that has diesel always have guys getting gas?
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Re: .25 in one shot

PostBy: LsFarm On: Fri May 16, 2008 5:51 pm

It's a conspriacy,, they see us coming and fill up that island.. buying gasoline.. :lol: :mad: :D

Did you get my PM about your plate exchanger??

Greg L
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Re: .25 in one shot

PostBy: WNY On: Sat May 17, 2008 8:46 am

Regular here yesterday hit $3.93, it jumped a good .10 overnight too!
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Re: .25 in one shot

PostBy: Steve.N On: Sat May 17, 2008 8:58 am

I run several antique diesel tractors around my place along with a couple of newer ones. The guys on the antique Cat site are saying that with the new low sulfer fuel you need to add a quart of two cycle oil to a tank full so the injector pump is lubricated. It is disheartining to add a quart of $4 dollar oil on top of $100 bucks of diesel. This is a link that was posted there.
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Re: .25 in one shot

PostBy: Freddy On: Sat May 17, 2008 9:24 am

Gad zooks.... I have a 1978 Case backhoe, should I be adding oil to that fuel?
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Re: .25 in one shot

PostBy: Duengeon master On: Sat May 17, 2008 9:45 am

LsFarm wrote:It's a conspriacy,, they see us coming and fill up that island.. buying gasoline.. :lol: :mad: :D

Did you get my PM about your plate exchanger??

Greg L
Yesterday I saw 4.109 regular on Long Island. :D :junmp: George Bush just went to saudi Arabia, and he @#$%& his @#$% The Saudi oil minister said to go @#$% yourself. So now we can expect a new wave of price increases!!! :D :) ;) 8-) :lol: :P :roll: :rofl: :yes: :dancing: :funny:
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Re: .25 in one shot

PostBy: gaw On: Sat May 17, 2008 10:08 am

I add Howe's and Mystery oil to my tractor diesel and have never had a problem. For all I know I may have never had a problem if I did nothing but why stop now?
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Re: .25 in one shot

PostBy: Sting On: Sat May 17, 2008 10:49 am

I have been using a shot of FPPF Cetain booster for a little extra punch and starting ability and a half bottle of Seafoam per fill for lubricity but FPPF also makes a great lube product - If you have an MT bottle of Stabil - that makes a great meter for short fills on the tank.

Yes - your old stuff will be benefited
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Re: .25 in one shot

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat May 17, 2008 11:04 am

Duengeon master wrote: The Saudi oil minister said to go @#$% yourself. So now we can expect a new wave of price increases!!! :D :) ;) 8-) :lol: :P :roll: :rofl: :yes: :dancing: :funny:


I wonder how much that has to do with this: http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petr ... ply04.html

It's a distinct possibility, maybe they can't produce more. As much as many of these nations hate us it's not in their best interests for the U.S. economy to tank.
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Re: .25 in one shot

PostBy: Freddy On: Sat May 17, 2008 12:14 pm

We find it easy to say if the Arabs increased production prices would drop, and they might, but, why should they increase production when we refuse to increase our own production? Todays paper mentioned that in 2000 we were running out of refining capacity. Here it is 8 years later and we have not built a single new refinery? Shame on us. (There are some new ones under construction now) We can blame China, we can blame the Arabs, we can blame commodity brokers, but there is one and only one reason that prices are going up. We are willing to pay it! Yes, we need gas, but we could cut back some. When gas hit $2.25 consumtion did not drop. The oil companies are simply seeing what we are willing to pay. When gas hit $2.85, consumtion did not drop. At $3.25 it dropped 1.5%, then went back to "normal". Gas hit $3.50, consumption wavered, but we're not there yet. Until consumption drops 5 or 6% prices will not stabilize. Where will that be? $4.50? $5? You better belive that Exxon and the others are going to find out.
We have a huge amount of oil that remains untapped. Off the east coast, in the gulf, in Alaska. Why use it when the Arabs are willing to sell us all we need?
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Re: .25 in one shot

PostBy: Yanche On: Sat May 17, 2008 8:04 pm

Price is largely demand related. Just think what could have been if we would have spent the trillions of war dollars on solar cell systems for individual homes. Oil demand would be way down. Same long term debt to be repaid by our grandchildren but likely a much better outcome.
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Re: .25 in one shot

PostBy: Wardner On: Sun May 25, 2008 2:16 am

Steve.N wrote:I run several antique diesel tractors around my place along with a couple of newer ones. The guys on the antique Cat site are saying that with the new low sulfer fuel you need to add a quart of two cycle oil to a tank full so the injector pump is lubricated. It is disheartining to add a quart of $4 dollar oil on top of $100 bucks of diesel. This is a link that was posted there.



I doubt if you need 2 cycle oil.

I found 500 gallons of new and used free refrigeration oil on Craigslist. I mix it in at 25%. I'll bet it would even run at 100%. It is similar in appearance to hydraulic oil but made from a different base. Naptha maybe, can't remember. It doesn't change viscosity or precipitate wax even down to -40 below. I know a guy who runs straight used ATF in his two stroke Detroit Diesel. He posts on the Yahoo DD site.I think my mileage is up several MPH.

I use the refer oil/salvaged heating oil blend in my 12 valve CTD and two IH antique Diesel tractors. I drove to Raleigh, NC and back last year without buying fuel enroute. I think I left MA with 120 gallons. Fuel cost was zero.
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Re: .25 in one shot

PostBy: Wardner On: Sun May 25, 2008 2:38 am

I should also add that in my area there is no need to purchase imported oil. There is someone in the Boston area who sells waste vege oil filtered to 10 microns for $1.75. He also has a premium product filtered to 2 microns and dewatered for $2.25. I know that there are some guys who don't filter at all. They let gravity settle out the impurities. There is no road tax levied on WVO in MA.

WVO requires a dual fuel system. You have to start on Diesel and then switch over. The older Ford pickups (pre Super Duty) came from the factory that way.
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Re: .25 in one shot

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun May 25, 2008 7:43 am

Freddy wrote: We have a huge amount of oil that remains untapped. Off the east coast, in the gulf, in Alaska. Why use it when the Arabs are willing to sell us all we need?


At the risk of starting a political debate I will say this: The lack of exploration and tapping of known US oil reserves is mostly the result of the whining of environmentalist wackos and resulting legislation by liberals.
Prices would be lower if the oil companies were allowed to tap into the vast oil reserves that we have right here. It has nothing to do with "greedy big oil" and the like. Most refiners make 8 cents per gallon profit.

Prices have risen in part due to the devaluation of the dollar on the world market.

Info on oil supply and demand and sources of crude oil:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/experts/contactexperts.htm
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Re: .25 in one shot

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun May 25, 2008 9:43 am

Wardner wrote:I should also add that in my area there is no need to purchase imported oil. There is someone in the Boston area who sells waste vege oil filtered to 10 microns for $1.75. He also has a premium product filtered to 2 microns and dewatered for $2.25.


Trouble there is that there is only X amount of wasted vegetable oil, we'd all have to start eating a hell of lot french fries to meet the demands. :lol: Mythbusters did a show on it:

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