Computer Killers.

Re: Computer Killers.

PostBy: joeq On: Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:55 pm

What are you sayin CW? Don't turn on the power? :lol:
(Murphys law, "build a fool-proof system, and only a fool will use it".)
(TOTP) :mad:
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Re: Computer Killers.

PostBy: CoalisCoolxWarm On: Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:17 pm

joeq wrote:What are you sayin CW? Don't turn on the power? :lol:


Best protection you can get. LOL.

AVG free and MBAM free. NO web-based component, skip it.
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Re: Computer Killers.

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:46 pm

+1 KISS
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Re: Computer Killers.

PostBy: Doby On: Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:57 pm

joeq wrote:How many of these individual programs are needed to protect a common PC? I was under the impression that the sole purpose of an anti-virus security program, is to protect us from "everything". Now I'm getting the impression, even a secondary back-up system like Malwarebytes isn't enuff, that a 3rd ones is needed too? Isn't there one system that does it all?


No sorry to leave that impression, I was referring to a badly infected computer in response to another post when I should have stuck to the topic at hand.

Don't read to much into all this you'll be find with the 2
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Re: Computer Killers.

PostBy: joeq On: Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:54 pm

Gut-cha Rick. And one last stupid question. Now that Malwarebytes is installed, in order to operate it, I don't see an icon. I guess I need to find the program in my downloads, and somehow input one to my toolbar?
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Re: Computer Killers.

PostBy: Doby On: Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:02 pm

Icon should be on the desktop if not click start, scroll down it should be there
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Re: Computer Killers.

PostBy: joeq On: Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:17 pm

Yes! There it is Rick. Thanks a ton to you and all that have participated in this thread. You guys are the "bees knees". :D
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Re: Computer Killers.

PostBy: joeq On: Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:33 pm

An up-date and question on my new puter.
This machine is 20 times quicker than my old PC, (never had a "new" one. Always hand me downs.) This one is an HP Pavillion 510, has 8 GB (HP) of memory, and 1TB (ft/lbs torque) on the hard drive, and is more powerful than a RAV. (For me, anyway. You guys with your "professional set-ups" are probably laughing, but I don't do much on my puter 'cept forums and pictures. And an occasional You tube.)
Anywhoo, I took your advice, and put on the Malwarebytes, to run alongside my "MacAfee" (yuk!) anti-virus that was installed in my new machine. A little extra protection. Not sure how long the anti-virus will last, but know that even a year from now MacAfee will be pestering me. And Malwarebytes, (that was a free download), has been telling me the free version is only good for???? (it expired today).
Rewind to a few days ago, when I went to PC Richards to ask a few questions about my purchase, and the anti-virus disc they sold me with the puter for $70. (Free with mail-in rebate). This is what the package looks like.
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Because my wife was concerned that we already were protected by "Frontier", all our devices, ($15 a month), she was wondering about converting the puter security over to it, and returning the $70 "Total defense" disc. The younger "salesman" informed us, he had used frontier in the past, and said the program took lots of power to run, and when he installed the "Total defense" system, it was much better on his puter. (?). Says it only requires little power to drive. When I asked about the "Malwarebytes", he stated it was already in the program. He convinced us, so today we un-installed MacAfee, and Malwarebytes (expired), and installed Total defense. It took the install, "BUT" (always a glitch with me and electronics :mad: ), I now have this error code, in a bubble, that is related to the install. I'm hoping you computer experts can give me some advice, before I have to call in to the company for their recommendations. This is what the error says, and I'm staring at it, in the lower right corner.
" A problem has occured in BitDefender Threat scanner. A file containing error information has been created atC:\windows\temp\bitdefender threat scanner.dmp. You are strongly encouraged to send the file to the developers for further investigation."
It has 2 options in the bubble. X out, or an (OK) bubble. Neither one will remove the error bubble. It's driving me nuts, and will have to wait till this week, to call anyone. Has anyone ever encountered this error, and what can be done to eliminate it? When we were installing the new Total defense disc/program, it mentioned something about an "up-dated" version that was available, and the one we were sold recently, is not. Don't know if that factors in. I apologize for the long drawn out post, but wanted to fill in the blanks. Thanks for reading.
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Re: Computer Killers.

PostBy: CoalisCoolxWarm On: Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:03 pm

A few short points.

1. Only ONE Antivirus at a time, period. Okay to have other helpers, like anti-malware programs with an antivirus, but only ONE antivirus.

2. Malwarebytes- reinstall it, but choose custom install and install just the FREE version. You are a private individual for personal use, this use is within their licensing.

3. McAfee? Nope. Norton/Symantec? Nope. I can get them for free, won't use them. They do generate a fair amount of dis-infection work, however. Yeah, they are past their glory days.

4. AVG is what I use. You can use the free version. It is lighter weight than the paid version. If you are a business and are required to pay for a license, you can do so and still use only the free/lighter version.

Don't bother with Total Defense.

This is very solid advice that you can "take to the bank" :cheers:
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Re: Computer Killers.

PostBy: joeq On: Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:20 pm

CoalisCoolxWarm wrote:A few short points.

1. Only ONE Antivirus at a time, period. Okay to have other helpers, like anti-malware programs with an antivirus, but only ONE antivirus.

2. Malwarebytes- reinstall it, but choose custom install and install just the FREE version. You are a private individual for personal use, this use is within their licensing.

3. McAfee? Nope. Norton/Symantec? Nope. I can get them for free, won't use them. They do generate a fair amount of dis-infection work, however. Yeah, they are past their glory days.

4. AVG is what I use. You can use the free version. It is lighter weight than the paid version. If you are a business and are required to pay for a license, you can do so and still use only the free/lighter version.

Don't bother with Total Defense.

This is very solid advice that you can "take to the bank" :cheers:

Thanks for the tips CCW, (counter clock wise?) I believe you can only run "one" anti-virus program anyway, can't you?
I've had all the companies above you mentioned, including AVG. all the AVGs I had I believe were free downloads, and never really had the problems I had with the other two creeps. That's relating to renewals, that I'm mentioning.As far as protecting me from worms, caterpillars, plagues, viruses, and all the other computer diseases, not so much. If no-one here has used this "total defense" system, to accurately rate them, or condemn them from being defective, I'm gunna give it a try. I just need to figure out the glitch with this error bubble.
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Re: Computer Killers.

PostBy: Doby On: Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:50 pm

All you had to do with malwarebytes was open it and on the main page click end free trial and that would have let the free version run, during the install you installed the free trial version but it was not necessary to uninstall it. Next time ask first

1 anti virus at a time is a must but malwarebytes is a malware removal tool not a virus scanner.

I agree with ccw avg free does not take the resources the others do therefore don't bog the computer down, is highly rated and if your going to use something that would be my choice by far

I mentioned this before but windows defender included with windows 10 and free for live along with malwarebytes run manually 1 time a week is all you need I would get rid of bit defender.

As far as the error it could be something with the install maybe a uninstall and reinstall would fix it but I would need to see the dump file and even then it may take one of there programmers to determine the cause
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Re: Computer Killers.

PostBy: grumpy On: Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:03 pm

Anyone know where I can find AVG for Mac OS 10.6.8 ? I can't find an older version...
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Re: Computer Killers.

PostBy: Doby On: Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:11 pm

grumpy wrote:Anyone know where I can find AVG for Mac OS 10.6.8 ? I can't find an older version...


It appears you won't

https://support.avg.com/answers?id=906b00000008pxMAAQ
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Re: Computer Killers.

PostBy: grumpy On: Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:20 pm

Looks like I will do without it from here on out, not going to upgrade my OS, did that not to long ago and it was a disaster. I was able to restore to my old OS and I'll keep it.

Unless someone has a better idea. Thanks Doby
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Re: Computer Killers.

PostBy: joeq On: Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:24 pm

Doby wrote:All you had to do with malwarebytes was open it and on the main page click end free trial and that would have let the free version run, during the install you installed the free trial version but it was not necessary to uninstall it. Next time ask first

1 anti virus at a time is a must but malwarebytes is a malware removal tool not a virus scanner.

I agree with ccw avg free does not take the resources the others do therefore don't bog the computer down, is highly rated and if your going to use something that would be my choice by far

I mentioned this before but windows defender included with windows 10 and free for live along with malwarebytes run manually 1 time a week is all you need I would get rid of bit defender.

As far as the error it could be something with the install maybe a uninstall and reinstall would fix it but I would need to see the dump file and even then it may take one of there programmers to determine the cause


The Malwarebytes free version I installed Doby, only lasted a couple weeks. I was under the impression when they told me it was run out, signing up for the next version "wasn't" free. How was I to know that it could be bypassed? They don't instruct you of that. If I called on you good people to educate me to all the questions I have problems with, (on a daily basis), no-one would ever read my posts.It would be like the boy who cried wolf ;)
And you mention getting rid of "bitdefender". That's what the error bubble wants me to do. I don't know how, and will be calling a tech for that this week sometime, I guess.
And once again, this new "Total Defense" system was sold to me by the PC Richards salesman, who you would assume would be up on this stuff. (I'm not). I'm not doubting anyone here with advice, or saying that their systems are inferior, but because I've been sold this one and it "is" suppose to be current and effective, and if no other users have said they themselves have had bad experiences with it, I'm gunna give it a try. just need to get by this one error code.
My last battle for the past hour, was trying to sign up with some HP printer support, but my wireless printer is killing me trying to retrieve a "Claim code". I've wasted my entire day on this computer, trying to figure this crap out. Not fun. :mad:
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