Problem connecting to masonry chimney

Re: Problem connecting to masonry chimney

PostBy: Clousseau On: Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:02 pm

Your first thought of using a double wall tee with a plug on the bottom of it would work; the plug could be used for a clean out without taking apart the connector pipe.
Clousseau
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: KA-6
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Re: Problem connecting to masonry chimney

PostBy: Tryingitout On: Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:44 pm

The plug would not be at the bottom. The tee would be horizontal, the stove connection would be coming up into it, so it would act as a 90, but I can use the plugged end as a clean out, or install the barometric damper up there??????
Tryingitout
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer model 30-95 EZ Flow
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak nut
Other Heating: Oil Furnace Oil water heater

Re: Problem connecting to masonry chimney

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:49 pm

Tryingitout wrote:The plug would not be at the bottom. The tee would be horizontal, the stove connection would be coming up into it, so it would act as a 90, but I can use the plugged end as a clean out, or install the barometric damper up there??????

Quite a few have done that very thing
SWPaDon
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous
Other Heating: Oil furnace

Re: Problem connecting to masonry chimney

PostBy: Tryingitout On: Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:27 am

Good to know thanks.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer model 30-95 EZ Flow
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Other Heating: Oil Furnace Oil water heater

Re: Problem connecting to masonry chimney

PostBy: McGiever On: Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:35 am

Not a recommended baro position. :(
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: Problem connecting to masonry chimney

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:05 am

McGiever wrote:Not a recommended baro position. :(

I'll second that. Ideally, at the middle of a long straight run. Use the TEE and a cap for cleanouts.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
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Re: Problem connecting to masonry chimney

PostBy: Tryingitout On: Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:42 pm

New problem OLD HOUSES SUCK.
When I was starting to make the new connection to the masonry chimney, I discovered the bottom 2' of the clay liner is mostly gone, i am not sure if it is possible to repair it. I thought about using some refractory mortor, and trying to recast something in its place. Not sure if that would work, or how it would hold up over time. I looked online at relining kits, but now I run back into the clearance problems, and the 25' run is not even close to a straight shot.(couple bows in there) I am considering tearing out the old, and installing a proper class A.
Tryingitout
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer model 30-95 EZ Flow
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak nut
Other Heating: Oil Furnace Oil water heater

Re: Problem connecting to masonry chimney

PostBy: Clousseau On: Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:41 pm

Had a fairly large piece of 8" x 12" section of clay flue liner break in my chimney 4 years ago just above where the stove pipe enters the chimney. I managed to get the piece out and used re-fractory cement to do a repair. It has lasted 4+ years now with no problems. Had to do it all by hand reaching in & up to apply it and smooth it out, but it worked & is still working.
Clousseau
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice Coal


Re: Problem connecting to masonry chimney

PostBy: CoalisCoolxWarm On: Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:47 pm

Liners can sit on top of each other. If one is damaged, the liners can collapse catastrophically.

I've never tried to reline one
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: old Sears rebuilt, bituminous- offline as of winter 2014
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Buckwheat
Other Heating: Oil Boiler

Re: Problem connecting to masonry chimney

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:17 pm

Have a local mason that does chimneys look at it. He can probably fix it for $200-300.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: Problem connecting to masonry chimney

PostBy: CoalisCoolxWarm On: Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:06 pm

coaledsweat wrote:Have a local mason that does chimneys look at it. He can probably fix it for $200-300.


^^^ This ^^^

Get an expert, save money safely ;)
CoalisCoolxWarm
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: old Sears rebuilt, bituminous- offline as of winter 2014
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Buckwheat
Other Heating: Oil Boiler

Re: Problem connecting to masonry chimney

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:44 am

To find a recommended mason find the local block and brick supplier and visit them for leads. :idea:

The price will be better and the results will last beyond your lifetime...not the case from using any metal alternative. :)
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: Problem connecting to masonry chimney

PostBy: Tryingitout On: Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:11 pm

Thanks again for all the input. I talked to a mason that works on my jobs, asked him if it would work to use some metal lath, and parge it with refractory cement? He agreed that would be fine. So I am almost done, just need to install the pipe, and cement around it. I chipped the inlet hole down as far as I could since I was going to repair the flue anyway, now I have 8 1/2" of clearance. A little chimney pipe work, then on to piping the boiler.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer model 30-95 EZ Flow
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak nut
Other Heating: Oil Furnace Oil water heater

Re: Problem connecting to masonry chimney

PostBy: CoalisCoolxWarm On: Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:16 pm

Great news!
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: old Sears rebuilt, bituminous- offline as of winter 2014
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Buckwheat
Other Heating: Oil Boiler

Re: Problem connecting to masonry chimney

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:14 pm

CoalisCoolxWarm wrote:Great news!

Yes, it is :up: :clap:
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous
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