Hotblast Year 3

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Tue. Feb. 07, 2017 12:13 pm

larryfoster wrote:Actually, I had some half decent hot coals when I added last time.

I added, mostly, lumps from the new (bad) coal.
You do have the secondary air closed, right? In times like this it should be closed.


 
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Post by larryfoster » Tue. Feb. 07, 2017 12:28 pm

I opened it when I added the coal.
It was smoking like crazy and I thought I opened secondary to burn off vols.

After a while I poked it to open up some airways from the bottom.
It really smoked then so I had to close it some to keep it from coming out the door

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Tue. Feb. 07, 2017 12:32 pm

It can be tricky keeping the fire going when ya get rapid warm ups outside.

Mine on the other hand is burning too well. I have a door and window open and it's still 80 degrees in here.

 
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Post by BigBarney » Tue. Feb. 07, 2017 1:29 pm

I am posting what some of the coal available looks like.

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This is Ohio nut coal from Thompson Coal.

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This is Pittsburgh lump Braddock PA.

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This is Valier House coal.

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Post by SWPaDon » Tue. Feb. 07, 2017 1:32 pm

Looks like fairly decent stuff.

What kind of furnace are you using, Barney

 
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Post by BigBarney » Tue. Feb. 07, 2017 2:01 pm

Here are some more.....

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Valier Oversize Lump ,some as large as the bucket.

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Lump Valier 2nd Picture

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Post by larryfoster » Tue. Feb. 07, 2017 2:19 pm

It looks....
Black.

Just kidding, Barney.


 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Tue. Feb. 07, 2017 2:32 pm

The fact it needs a mouse trap to protect it makes me wonder how good can that coal be ? :D

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Post by BigBarney » Tue. Feb. 07, 2017 2:38 pm

SW

I have a European bottom combustion boiler that can burn just about any coal.

You load it from the front top door and the coal falls down and only burns on the

bottom,above the grate,and the ash falls to the grate.Combustion air comes from

underneath the grate and goes up to the top and the smoke it produces has to go

back through the the hot coals and combust nearly completely with the secondary

air admitted in the side port. When I show a picture of a blue flame from any coal

Bit or Anthracite I am looking into the secondary air inlet. This works similar to a

wood gasification boiler only with a single chamber for all combustion.

It will burn any wood or coal in the same manner. When you open the upper front

door all you see is raw coal,unless the coal is down all the way, you can actually

handle the coal it is warm but not hot,because only coal at the interface of the ash

and raw coal are burning.This small burning area is where the gases and smoke all

burn up and produce a lot of heat with the hot gases and air coming up and down

with extra secondary to get the blue CO flame. I get very little soot because everything

burns up even the carbon will produce a blue flame at high temperatures.It is best to

keep plenty of coal in the boiler because that keeps the process smooth and does not

disturb the combustion.

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This is with wood and coal mixture.

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Just after filling.

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20 hours later,clean grates and add coal on warm day.

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Post by BigBarney » Tue. Feb. 07, 2017 2:41 pm

Gotta keep the mice from stealing it !!!!!!!!

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Post by SWPaDon » Tue. Feb. 07, 2017 2:48 pm

BigBarney wrote:I have a European bottom combustion boiler that can burn just about any coal.
Thanks, I was curious because the pictures you showed before just showed the round hole with the flame inside.

At first I thought it might be a stoker, but you said you were using 'nut coal' and that didn't make sense. Nut would be big for a stoker.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Tue. Feb. 07, 2017 2:51 pm

BigBarney wrote:Gotta keep the mice from stealing it !!!!!!!!

BigBarney
:D Must be the good stuff, huh ?

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Post by larryfoster » Wed. Feb. 08, 2017 2:14 pm

Senility. Or just blond with ADHD.
:oops:

Did we decide on whether I should get nut or lumps when I make my Valier purchase?

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Wed. Feb. 08, 2017 2:28 pm

CoalisCoolxWarm wrote:Larry, I used the nut coal from Valier's with pretty good success. It was the best results we had with the least amount of clinkers.

Especially this time of year, have your guy ask the loader to get coal off the TOP of the pile. They will grumble and maybe be a bit indignant, but fines that settle to the bottom of the pile can make troubles in a hand fired.

I understand coal yards want to get rid of it, but I certainly didn't want it. Off the top, fire was pretty stable, good heat, not a lot of hassle. From the bottom (with all season's junk settled there), not so much.

BTW, you wouldn't be the only person with a pile of junk coal sitting around :oops: I give it away to anyone who will take it. Lots of fines (from a different source)

 
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Post by larryfoster » Wed. Feb. 08, 2017 2:43 pm

Thanks, Don.

Wasn't sure if my Hotblast changed that.


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