Hotblast year 3

Re: Hotblast year 3

PostBy: larryfoster On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:44 pm

You said you were going to have your chimney checked and cleaned, right?

I said I was going to clean it.
I'll be able to tell if there was a sudden obstruction.
Thanks for your concern
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Re: Hotblast year 3

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:49 pm

What about the mano ? It was working and the tube was just changed to a new position, but it sounds like nothing else was changed ???

Larry,

A test of the mano.

Pull the mano tube out of the pipe, and off the gauge connection (hopefully you had it on the right hand connection).

Blow through the gauge end of the tube to make sure it's clear by feeling if air comes out the pipe end of the tube. If you do feel air, put the tube back on the right hand gauge connection.

While watching the gauge, hold the pipe end of the tube a few inches away and pointed at your mouth. Blow gently at the tube end and see if the red liquid moves to the left, below zero in the gauge's sight glass. Don't put you mouth directly on the tube and blow - that's too much pressure and red liquid will squirt out of the sight glass.

Let us know what you find out.

Paul
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Re: Hotblast year 3

PostBy: CoalisCoolxWarm On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:49 pm

larryfoster wrote:Thanks for your concern


You got it, buddy! :cheers:
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Re: Hotblast year 3

PostBy: corey On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:04 pm

If you find that manometer is working properly I would just shut down and clean the chimney and inspect it all ASAP.

CO2 could kill you if it started leaking during the night while everyone is sleeping it really concerns me too......
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Re: Hotblast year 3

PostBy: larryfoster On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:09 pm

Will do.
Just came back up before reading your post, Paul.
While I didn't do your test, I moved the probe back to the original hole between the MPD and baro.

Reading went from 0 to .03-.04.
I think I need to clean my pipe and then do further tests.
It will be burnt out before I go to bed
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Re: Hotblast year 3

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:15 pm

larryfoster wrote:Will do.
Just came back up before reading your post, Paul.
While I didn't do your test, I moved the probe back to the original hole between the MPD and baro.

Reading went from 0 to .03-.04.
I think I need to clean my pipe and then do further tests.
It will be burnt out before I go to bed


Larry,
If the mano was reading zero in the new spot closer to the stove, ... and goes back to reading good draft in the old spot, which is further away from the stove, I seriously doubt your pipe is clogged. If it were clogged then what could possibly be causing that strong of a draft with the mano plumbed back into the old spot ?

Paul
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Re: Hotblast year 3

PostBy: larryfoster On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:41 pm

That pipe is on a slope and the new location is at the bottom while the old is higher up.
It felt a little sooty and the pipe may be filled to some extent with soot.

I will know tomorrow as soon as I can work at it.

I, also, don't know if that would cause this.

In a bit I will try your test on the mano
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Re: Hotblast year 3

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:00 pm

larryfoster wrote:That pipe is on a slope and the new location is at the bottom while the old is higher up.
It felt a little sooty and the pipe may be filled to some extent with soot.

I will know tomorrow as soon as I can work at it.

I, also, don't know if that would cause this.

In a bit I will try your test on the mano



No need to test the mano, you did when it went back in the old hole and showed that.03 reading.

To get zero, and then a .03 after moving it back, you'd have to stick the tip of mano tube buried into soot to get it to read zero.

But, my point is that you can't have a .03 reading in the pipe if the stove pipe were plugged and the stove was now using the house as it's new chimney. Plus you'd smell it. Something is causing that reading of draft strength further down the stove pipe away from the stove and I think it's because the stove pipe is not plugged, but that somehow the mano tube tip got temporarily plugged and when you put it back in the old hole the stove pipe suction cleared the clog in the tube tip and the mano went back to reading the actual draft in the pipe.

When you open it up to clean the pipe in the morning, see if the soot level is covering that new mano tube hole in the pipe.

Paul
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Re: Hotblast year 3

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:36 pm

Maybe the MPD flap isn't tight with the axel and it's closed when you think it should be open.
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Re: Hotblast year 3

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:39 pm

So if you move the probe back and forth between the two locations (before and after the MPD) what readings do you get?
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Re: Hotblast year 3

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:42 pm

larryfoster wrote:That pipe is on a slope and the new location is at the bottom while the old is higher up.
It felt a little sooty and the pipe may be filled to some extent with soot.


Oh! Well it makes sense that you are shoving the probe into a pile of soot and fly ash at the new probe location.
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Re: Hotblast year 3

PostBy: larryfoster On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:45 pm

I'm still alive, BTW and will be able to answer in about 15 minutes.

BTW, I'm not trying to be flippant.
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Re: Hotblast year 3

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:53 pm

larryfoster wrote:I'm still alive, BTW and will be able to answer in about 15 minutes.

BTW, I'm not trying to be flippant.


Okay man, yeah it's important that you probe the top side of the pipe so that you don't shove it into soot and fly ash. I just never thought of bringing up that point lol. Your probe is probably clogged now too.
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Re: Hotblast year 3

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:04 am

Lightning wrote:
larryfoster wrote:I'm still alive, BTW and will be able to answer in about 15 minutes.

BTW, I'm not trying to be flippant.


Okay man, yeah it's important that you probe the top side of the pipe so that you don't shove it into soot and fly ash. I just never thought of bringing up that point lol. Your probe is probably clogged now too.



He said it went back to reading.03 when he moved the tube tip back to the original hole further down stream.

And if the stove piped was clogged, then it's his ghost that's been posting since he said the reading went to zero. :shock:

Paul
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Re: Hotblast year 3

PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:19 am

Well I suppose it's possible that the probe clogged at the new location being on the bottom side of the pipe. Then when he moved it the soot and fly ash clogging the probe jostled loose to show a reading at the old location above the MPD. I mean how else could that happen?
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