Hotblast Year 3

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Jan. 19, 2017 11:30 pm

larryfoster wrote:It wouldn't be hard to break up.
They wouldn't use something too difficult if these liners need replaced occasionally
I wonder if Hearth.com - the wood burning website - has threads on that subject ?

Paul


 
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Post by SWPaDon » Thu. Jan. 19, 2017 11:33 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:
larryfoster wrote:It wouldn't be hard to break up.
They wouldn't use something too difficult if these liners need replaced occasionally
I wonder if Hearth.com - the wood burning website - has threads on that subject ?

Paul
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/removing-vermiculite.134714/

 
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Post by larryfoster » Thu. Jan. 19, 2017 11:40 pm

The question is..........how much beer should I bring, and do you have room to pitch a tent Larry? this could take a lttle time
I'll take care of the beer.
2 big freezers full of food.

We could even find room under roof to pitch your tent

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Thu. Jan. 19, 2017 11:43 pm

larryfoster wrote:
The question is..........how much beer should I bring, and do you have room to pitch a tent Larry? this could take a lttle time
I'll take care of the beer.
2 big freezers full of food.

We could even find room under roof to pitch your tent
Great. Work doesn't bother me a bit. I think I can watch Paul all day :nana: :cheers:

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Jan. 20, 2017 12:16 am

SWPaDon wrote:
larryfoster wrote:
I'll take care of the beer.
2 big freezers full of food.

We could even find room under roof to pitch your tent
Great. Work doesn't bother me a bit. I think I can watch Paul all day :nana: :cheers:
You've never seen the way I work, you'll be bored in short order. :D

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Post by larryfoster » Fri. Jan. 20, 2017 12:25 am

Maybe we can hire some illegal immigrants to do the work.

We'll drink beer and supervise.

Anybody here speak Mexican?

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Jan. 20, 2017 12:36 am

All I know is, mas cervesa, pro favor. :D

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Post by larryfoster » Fri. Jan. 20, 2017 12:48 am

All I know is, mas cervesa, pro favor. :D
I think that's all we'll need

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Fri. Jan. 20, 2017 6:39 am

Works for me :up: :clap:

 
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Post by larryfoster » Fri. Jan. 20, 2017 9:21 am

This is something else that continues to confuse me (along with all the other wonders of the universe.

It's probably been explained but I'm dumber than a box of rocks and don't get it.

I was reading Lee's Chronicles of Clayton here:
Chronicles of the Clayton
currently at 189 over the load door, 75 in the house and 35 outside
Right now, I'm at 430 over door, at 6' off the floor in my warmest room, directly over my furnace, I'm at 70.
It's about 40 outside with minimal wind

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Jan. 20, 2017 9:48 am

I know your stove is not exactly like Lee has modified his. Is your duct work like Lee's ? Is your home layout the same, is it insulated the same, heat loss the same ???? All relatively minor things when viewed individually, but collectively they can make a huge difference in how well a stove heats different places.

The uniqueness of every setup, even with the same stove, does have an affect on the end result of heating a space. Not being able to quantify and factor in/out those difference can sometimes work against you when trying to chaise down possible problems.

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Post by larryfoster » Fri. Jan. 20, 2017 10:25 am

I do understand that there are differences, Paul, and thanks for replying.

Not sure a couple of those things apply like some of Lee's mods, for example.

Where I took the 70 reading was in an interior room directly over the furnace with almost a straight shot up into the room from where my supply pipe enters the ductwork.
From where the warm air enters the ductwork it travels horizontally 4' and into the room register
Other parts of the house are, understandably, cooler due to those differences.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Jan. 20, 2017 10:53 am

Your measuring stove temp over the door at just one end of the stove. Lee has made changes that also affect the temps at the other end of his stove.

Distance is not the only factor. Your duct work may send a different volume of heat the same distance as Lee's because of so many other factors with the duct work and the layout of the house even without getting room air movements and house heat-loss differences into the mix.

I think your over thinking this without realizing all the factors that have to be taken into account to do a meaningful comparison.

Plus you still have some unknowns to deal with.

I'd say, see what Saturday shows with the chimney. And make sure that thimble is well sealed. You've already checked and crossed a lot off the check list of what a lot of us have been able to think of, but that list is not done yet. ;)

Paul

 
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Post by BigBarney » Fri. Jan. 20, 2017 11:07 am

This is building to CRESCENDO and we'll should know on Saturday!!!!

 
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Post by larryfoster » Fri. Jan. 20, 2017 11:11 am

but that list is not done yet. ;)
You guys have had the patience of Job with me.

I hope we get through it this heating season.
:roll:
we'll should know on Saturday!!!!
Myself and a lot of people here hope so.

This is one of those times I wish I hadn't put on a steel roof.
Hard to climb.

Slicker than snot on a doorknob.
:sick:


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