At least 5 dead, 8 hospitalized Fort Lauderdale

At least 5 dead, 8 hospitalized Fort Lauderdale

PostBy: johnjoseph On: Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:53 pm

The suspect was identified as Esteban Santiago, Fla. Sen. Bill Nelson told reporters. He said Santiago was carrying a military ID, but did not elaborate.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/06/at-least-5-dead-8-hospitalized-after-shooting-at-ft-lauderdale-airport.html
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Re: At least 5 dead, 8 hospitalized Fort Lauderdale

PostBy: grumpy On: Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:12 pm

May be a 2ed shooter.
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PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:53 am

Per the Drudge Report, the guy had previously walked into an FBI office in November stating that the government controlled his mind and forced him to watch ISIS videos. Apparently this didn't persuade the FBI to take any sort of action. They probably dismissed him as a nut case.

Why do all of these murders seem to have ties to the FBI in one way or another?
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Re: At least 5 dead, 8 hospitalized Fort Lauderdale

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:42 am

They did have him admitted--evaluated & he was released. Thank the LIBBERS mental health system--no need to put EVERYTHING on the FBI!!
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PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:51 am

freetown fred wrote:They did have him admitted--evaluated & he was released. Thank the LIBBERS mental health system--no need to put EVERYTHING on the FBI!!

I dunno, Fred. From what they've said so far, this guy should have been on a no-fly list at the very least. Even the MSM is questioning that (which is surprising)

The man claimed to be watching ISIS videos, the latest one that I've seen in the news is this one:

Islamic State ‘Caliphate Cubs’ Video Shows Children Executing Prisoners
http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur ... prisoners/
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Re: At least 5 dead, 8 hospitalized Fort Lauderdale

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:03 am

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Re: At least 5 dead, 8 hospitalized Fort Lauderdale

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:39 am

FBI owes better answers on Fort Lauderdale airport shooting

Given that he reportedly suffered mental health problems, that he told FBI agents he was hearing voices about ISIS and that he was held for psychiatric evaluation in Alaska just two months ago, how is it even possible that Esteban Santiago was allowed to fly with a gun?


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/edi ... story.html
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PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:36 am

What happened to the "no fly list"?
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PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:19 pm

And once again the ball is dropped by gov agencies tasked with preventing this.

So there will be more calls for more gun control laws because the laws about murder, that are already on the books, didn't work.

When are they going to realize that they need to work on nut control ?

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Re: At least 5 dead, 8 hospitalized Fort Lauderdale

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:07 pm

lsayre wrote:What happened to the "no fly list"?

The no-fly list is there, this guy just wasn't put on it as he should have been.

The FBI screwed up bad at every turn on this one. The man was in their office, telling them, 'that he was being told to do something like this.' Had they checked....'the story said he was up on domestic abuse charges', he should have been on the list. And he sure as hell should not have been able to go anywhere with a gun.
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PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:11 pm

The biggest thing here is, the FBI knew about him, as well as the night club shooter in Florida, as well as the San Bernadino shooters.

All trails lead to the FBI.....just sayin

Has it now become the 'Federal Bureau of Incitement'?
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PostBy: samhill On: Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:28 pm

:wtf: We're talking guns here & the right to own & carry, one time the laws are way too many & the next they aren't enough. There isn't much if any law that disallows someone that has claimed mental illness from buying or owning a gun & I would think it varies greatly by state. Ya get to sounding like a bunch of hypocritical retards that can't stick to one doctrine, either your with gun freedoms for most all or agin, it can't be both. The fool was found to be relative sane, released & given his gun back, they can only hold someone that seeks help for a certain period, back in the 80s they got rid of the vast majority of mental health hospitals & asylums, there's just no more room at the inn. :roll:
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PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:37 pm

And once again you missed it, Sam.

It's not about too many, or not enough gun laws. The point is,.... this happened because idiots push for laws to treat a symptom, not to treat the cause.

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Re: At least 5 dead, 8 hospitalized Fort Lauderdale

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:43 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:And once again you missed it, Sam.

It's not about too many, or not enough gun laws. The point is,.... this happened because idiots push for laws to treat a symptom, not to treat the cause.

Paul

And, this is at least the 3rd recent incident involving the FBI........and bunches of people died shortly thereafter.

This case makes no sense........in November the guy walks into an FBI office and says this crap. In early January he does what originally told the FBI he was told to do by the CIA. But this also brings into play the no-fly list.........and the fact that he was authorized to take the weapon to an airport :confused: :confused:
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PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:58 pm

Brother of airport shooting suspect says US gov't failed him
When he told agents at an FBI field office his paranoid thoughts in November, he was evaluated for four days, then released without any follow-up medication or therapy.


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... 7-20-58-41
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