Opinions Please!

Opinions please!

PostBy: philthy On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:50 am

Last year I put an older Alaska Kast Konsole out in the garage that operates on a power vent. My plan is to do the upgrade of switching out the combustion blower for the Dayton. My question for the members is; If I plug the feed motor into one of those plug-in type thermostats such as the one shown below, do you think it will work? I could see an issue with outfires when calls for heat are limited such as shoulder months and what not. What I'm trying to gain is a little more control over the temperature in the garage.

The system works ok but requires a little more attention than say my koker lite for example. A coal-trol would be best I know but not too keen on dropping that kind of money for a garage heater. Most of the time I have it just chugging along at the bare minimum to maintain fire but would love to have some sort of thermostatic control. If I'm going out there to work ill add a couple turns and give the carpet a couple of quick pushes for a quicker temp rise. This again is ok but convenience is okayer!
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
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Re: Opinions please!

PostBy: titleist1 On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:15 pm

Depends on how well insulated the garage is and how cold it is and how warm you want it to be.

The stoker in my well insulated 24 x 20 workshop keeps it at 60 overnight just running on the timer settings of 2 minutes on and 11 minutes off in the coldest weather. If I am in and out with a lot of air turnover then the 'stat will kick it on between timer calls.

If the garage isn't well insulated and its real cold out I could see it working because the 'stat will give enough heat calls to keep it lit. You may need to find out through trial and error what outside temp causes an outfire and then go back to the current way you are running it when it hits those temps.

The alternative is to wire in a parallel timer circuit.....or program a timer into an arduino with a 'stat input and some relays.... :o
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Opinions please!

PostBy: philthy On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:19 pm

Thanks for the reply!

The garage is not well insulated so I was thinking the same thing, plenty of heat calls to keep the fire lit. Like you said, just have to play with it in the warmer temps or run as I currently do. Once it starts to average out in the mid 50's I let it go out anyway, warm enough for me to be working.

As far as the arduino, that is a little beyond my understanding. :oops: Sounds interesting though and I believe ill look into it but at this point I prefer to keep it simple.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: Koker Lite

Re: Opinions please!

PostBy: philthy On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:19 pm

Here's another thought. . .

https://www.amazon.com/Intermatic-C8835-30-Minute-Repeat-20-Amps/dp/B000GHLV5K

The same timer that's on my keystoker. Only thing is i'm not to sure on is what else is needed for this to work. I suppose I could dissect my keystoker or perhaps there's a schematic in my paper work. The timer is not cheap from my perspective but way cheaper than the coal-trol. Question is, is the frustration and time worth it? That coal-trol hook-up looks pretty painless. Decisions Decisions. . .
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: Koker Lite

Re: Opinions please!

PostBy: titleist1 On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:19 pm

"The alternative is to wire in a parallel timer circuit..."

That is the device I was thinking of when I mentioned the parallel timer circuit above. You could just use the timer (without the 'stat) and add or subtract pins to achieve the temp you wanted inside as outside temps changed.

I think you could come up with a wiring circuit to use both the timer and the thermostat but I'd have to think about that a little bit. There are a few here with more circuit experience that could probably sketch something quicker than I could.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Opinions please!

PostBy: McGiever On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:55 pm

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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
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Re: Opinions please!

PostBy: philthy On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:02 pm

McGiever: Yeah I've looked at them before. I've tried unsuccessfully to get some info/price etc.. Guess I should get serious about it. A good option no doubt.

titleist1: After you said about the timer I went searching and put it all together what you were saying. That led me to whats on my keystoker. Thanks for the nudge!
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: Koker Lite

Re: Opinions please!

PostBy: Doby On: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:35 pm

You could also contact Alaska they sell a thermostat system
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