Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

Re: Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

PostBy: KingCoal On: Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:03 pm

Wren wrote:I'll try different products on the top and see which works best. :D


if it was me, i'd save all the time and money of multiple trials and frustration and send it all to member "Paned"

if you haven't seen his "Acorn Base Burner" thread it deserves a look. his polishing work is exceptional.

super neat to see that you have the stove running and kicking some colds butt.

steve
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Re: Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

PostBy: Wren On: Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:09 pm

I'll look at Paned, thanks. I think the top may be beyond anything I can do.
Yeah. Just in time for a week of sub zero. We had a very mild winter until now.
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Re: Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

PostBy: Wren On: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:49 pm

That advert with people running out of the house and diving out windows was pretty accurate. I went out to shovel snow just to get away.
But if I close it tight it dies.

Will a pot give any warning if it goes or does it just spill coal? Tilted some tile towards stove just keep heat off the wood floor. No need to run Tiger. But it was perfect at -35.... Surpasses my expectations.
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Re: Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

PostBy: franco b On: Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:13 pm

Wren wrote:That advert with people running out of the house and diving out windows was pretty accurate. I went out to shovel snow just to get away.
But if I close it tight it dies.

Will a pot give any warning if it goes or does it just spill coal? Tilted some tile towards stove just keep heat off the wood floor. No need to run Tiger. But it was perfect at -35.... Surpasses my expectations.


That the fire dies with the air shutters closed is a sign that the stove is tight. You should be able to maintain the temperature you want by just cracking one.

Having a manometer would tell you just what your draft is, and with a manual pipe damper you could set it just right. A barometric damper would be more automatic once set. With high draft, the opening you set becomes more critical.

A fire pot can crack but I have never seen or heard of one just spilling coal. It doesn't fly in a million pieces as some types of glass do.
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Re: Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

PostBy: Wren On: Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:27 pm

Thanks. That's all interesting.
I know I've read a glowing pot is okay, just checking. Doesn't always glow. I'm a little slow loading and so on. it's strange to hear the fire surge when I open the loading or ash door. Out of the Sabots and into the FJ's. The power is something else.
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Re: Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

PostBy: franco b On: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:33 pm

Having two air shutters on a Glenwood can be handy. I leave one set on the cruising setting I want. and use the other fully open to rev up a fresh load. Close it completely when the new load is generating blues well.
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Re: Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

PostBy: Merc300d On: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:46 pm

Wow. That's a wild pic. Oddly enough the oaks are notorious for cracking the fire pots right where the glowing is either from the front bolt upwards or left to right deAd center. I would say not to let it get that hot too many times. Is the pot lined ? Pretty cool pic even though it red hot !! :lol:
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Re: Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:26 am

Yup, early on she posted pix showing that it had been relined.

Looking at that picture, I suspect that the liner isn't high enough in the front and as such it is allowing high heat to get to the pot to cause such a localized glow near the top edge of the pot.

Paul
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Re: Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

PostBy: Wren On: Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:00 am

Okay! Take care of that when season over. A week or two. We go from winter to summer here nothing in between. I just won't load it so high. And getting quicker on my manoeuvres which cuts down on wooshes of air for long periods too.

Although honestly, sometimes it's all around the pot. But much less since I get everything ready and then operate. Last night when I loaded up I watched and no glow, but I shut everything as quickly as possibly. It literally sounds Ile a furnace if I open the loading door. I guess the awe will wear off soon.
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Re: Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:10 pm

I love the stove Wren, you went through a lot of trouble to get it. My feelings are to buy refractory cement and a pipe damper, pick a day in the near future and add the pot lining and the damper. Slowly cure the refractory with a few small wood fires and then gradually build some coal fires.
I think we would all feel bad if you waited too long and caused a crack or distortion of the fire pot...just my 2 cents ;)

Mike
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Re: Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

PostBy: franco b On: Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:36 pm

Wren wrote: It literally sounds Ile a furnace if I open the loading door.


Seems like you have super draft that has to be tamed. Get the pipe damper as soon as possible and a Dwyer mark 2 model 25 manometer to accurately set it. Listed on Amazon.
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Re: Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

PostBy: Wren On: Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:21 pm

Oh dear. Wouldn't I be mad at myself. This week coming I'd better. It was so hot over night I didn't start it 'til 4p.m., but I used a small amount of charcoal on a layer of ash and built it slowly over two hours today.
It's just so easy to open air all the way and get it going fast but I Don't any more, and I have filled it to just under the rim by an inch or two. Maybe it's better and my son won't sleep with his bedroom window open tonight, although he likes fresh air and says he never slept better.
The primary air I left one shut near door handle and other just less than an inch but I'll watch.

Thanks for responding, all.
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Re: Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

PostBy: franco b On: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:24 pm

Wren wrote:The primary air I left one shut near door handle and other just less than an inch but I'll watch.


An inch opening is very large. Try 1/8 or even less.
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Re: Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

PostBy: Wren On: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:51 pm

Okay. At first I left barely a visible crack in each. Not sure why I started opening it more.... :?
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Re: Glenwood 116 to help out little Tiget

PostBy: Wren On: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:27 am

I was only leaving a half inch open one side when I got the measuring tape out but I can actually hear a difference between the one eighth (quiet) and half(quiet roar). So when I load I Don't open them all the way any more and that makes a big, big difference to the pot glow.

Nothing last night, a tiny bit on left around the side back. Hard to believe it could make such a difference and the heat was bearable too. Warm weather expected this weekend so the damper can go in.

NW wind today and Tiger going as well although only -19 Celsius with wind chill.

Very grateful for that eighth inch one side advice and that finally gives me that blue flame I have not seen very much of. All calm here now.
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