Glenwood 116 to Help Out Little Tiget

Sunny Boy · Post by **Sunny Boy** » Sat. Jan. 21, 2017 8:59 am

From what I can see of that back damper handle on top, and translating the Dutch words on the plate under it, I think it's just an MPD built into the stove's pipe collar, rather than have an MPD in the pipe like we do here in the States.

Paul

joeq · Post by **joeq** » Sat. Jan. 21, 2017 10:24 am

Paul, you are a talented guy. You even speak "Dutch"? I don't even know what the Dutch language is.

But if what you say is true, that little Tiger stove has some nifty little accessories. From one of Jens pictures, the top or "bonnet" is opened, allowing for loading. I didn't realize the white handle was for this. And the slide damper, way up high, (on the top), I guess is for secondary air. And the white gizmo in the rear, with what looks like 3 positions, you say is a built in pipe damper? How cool is that? Everything built into one tidy little package.

Wren · Post by **Wren** » Sat. Jan. 21, 2017 12:41 pm

The white handle opens the secondary air slide...part to allow for loading. The man said his grandma always had a kettle on the flowered part of the big top lid. I open that to start a fire as it's easier but once it's going I put the metal on top and pour through the side. A Dutch lady said hard is the missing word I'd like to repair and zacht means soft

Wren · Post by **Wren** » Sat. Jan. 21, 2017 12:44 pm

Interesting that you put the damper in the pipe. An older neighbour says it would be better two feet up the pipe or so to keep the heat longer. You know if it weren't't for old people I would not have known about anthracite stoves. Bodies of useful knowledge are being lost. In Canada anyway.

Hambden Bob · Post by **Hambden Bob** » Sat. Jan. 21, 2017 1:01 pm

I'll tell You,I've not been a huge Antique Stove guy in the past...... You Fine Folks,however,are having a strange effect upon me ! Heck,between the "Sherrick of Anthracite" and his Merry Band of Coalburners,and now this fine little ditty that Wren's started,I'm getting interested !! Carry On !!

Wren · Post by **Wren** » Sat. Jan. 21, 2017 4:36 pm

Lol! I love Robin Hood.
Hambden Bob, do you actually get something like 100 hours of burn time from each load of coal? Because that's pretty impressive and modern has it's advantages.

I wanted to ask Joeq to show us where all the loading and airing goes on with the stove with the gothic windows. Does it say Banner and Robertson on it? I wonder if it came from Scotland.

My passport isn't in and I want to go and pick up the Glenwood. It's been about forty degrees for a while but it can't last.

joeq · Post by **joeq** » Sat. Jan. 21, 2017 5:44 pm

Wren wrote:Lol! I love Robin Hood.
I wanted to ask Joeq to show us where all the loading and airing goes on with the stove with the gothic windows. Does it say Banner and Robertson on it? I wonder if it came from Scotland.

My passport isn't in and I want to go and pick up the Glenwood. It's been about forty degrees for a while but it can't last.

I missed something on the "Robinhood", comment Jen, but I'm a little slow anyway.

The only air intake on the "Southard Robertson" stove, is the one primary slide damper at the very bottom. I only have the 3 pics above, that are posted, but you can see it clearly on the photo of the base. You'll also see the klinker door/ clean-out access in the same photo. As for loading , the Gothic door on the barrel is one, and also there's a top plate that can be removed for loading, or holding a pan or kettle on. I don't have a bonnet for it, or even know if it's suppose to have one. I have "zilch" for info on this stove, but only gave less than $100 for it, and don't plan on using it for any real heating, so I'm not too concerned about it too much. Just like that it's tiny, and will fit in a tight corner. As for it being made in Scotland, your guess is as good as mine.
And you know we're all waiting impatiently for the arrival of your Glenwood.

Wren · Post by **Wren** » Sat. Jan. 21, 2017 6:16 pm

It's Hambden Bob who said.. Sherrick and his band of merry men.
I never took mine very seriously either, but now that I look for info about how to efficiently operate these stoves with tiny grates I'm kind of surprised at the prices you come across for them. I mean mine I was asked to take it by someone who knows I live in the past. But maybe they are gaining popularity. Maybe because coal use is up.

Wren · Post by **Wren** » Sat. Jan. 21, 2017 9:35 pm

Joeq. Ohhhh. You have a Glenwood 111 baseburner!!! I'm starting to look at the avatars. Maybe I'll lose interest in the kitten once I have a bigger grate.

joeq · Post by **joeq** » Sat. Jan. 21, 2017 11:51 pm

Not a true baseburner Jenny, but a base heater. I'm satisfied with my stoves performance. It has its limitations, but does all I need it to do. Because of the location of the chimney in my house, I don't think there are many stoves that will out perform it that much. A bigger one may have longer burn times, or heat out put, but even they won't be able to make the house as comfortable as a full fledged furnace system can do. So is the problems of a single radiant heater, in an old house, with many floors and dedicated rooms. But it does take the load off the furnace, provides more heat in the major living areas, and has a style of it's own, that can only be appreciated by enthusiasts of the past, and knowledgeable individuals that have lived and witnessed the influences these historical devices have provided for over a hundred years.
There are a lot of good Glenwood builds on this site, and many people helped me with questions, and gave info while I went through my 111 a few years back. I've provided a link to my thread, which a lot of info would pertain to your 116, if you're interested. I hope you can benefit from it, as I did.
Glenwood 111

Wren · Post by **Wren** » Sun. Jan. 22, 2017 11:17 am

Thank you. I will definitely read it. I couldn't have started up the kitten without this site, even though there are things that sink in more slowly than I like. Things to learn. I used to think a base heater was anything that sat on a base; now at least I know to look for pipes, but it would be dull if there were nothing left to learn!

Pancho · Post by **Pancho** » Mon. Jan. 23, 2017 8:16 am

Sunny Boy wrote:I wonder if adding the layer of nut coal lowers the firebed temp just enough to drop it below the fusing temp range ?

Paul

I am not really sure Paul but I "think", in part, with a more even combustion the dino eggs that are against firepot burn more complete thus there is less left to bridge.

Orrrrr...it lowers the firebed temp enough to drop it below the fusing temp range.

Orrrrr....it's just one of the great mysteries of our time.

Pancho · Post by **Pancho** » Mon. Jan. 23, 2017 8:18 am

Wren wrote:Thank you both, I will try that. I would hate to ruin the brick. So if your brick is 112, it is possible to keep it in running condition? I'd love to keep the Tiger healthy.

You would have to make an effort to damage the firebrick. Just don't go poking at it or beating on it and it will outlast all of us.

Sunny Boy · Post by **Sunny Boy** » Mon. Jan. 23, 2017 8:32 am

And even if the bricks are cracked, it's very difficult for pieces to come loose because of the outward pressure of the firebed holding them in place.

Plus, unlike modern fire bricks, the clay firebricks tend not to crack in as flat a plain. The breaks are very jagged, so the broken pieces tend to stay locked together and can't shift easily. In fact, if you took all the coal out and you wanted pieces of the fire bricks to fall off it wouldn't be easy.

Paul

Wren · Post by **Wren** » Mon. Jan. 23, 2017 12:32 pm

Oh, thanks, Sunny Boy. I wonder why then, for example, they are missing in my Glenwood and other stoves? I'll be happy to keep the Tiger bricks as they are. If there is space showing between them should I fill it with cement. Ah. The answer is probably in another thread. I will look!