Loggin in the MUCK

Re: Loggin in the MUCK

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:10 pm

Hmmmm, 1000 bd feet??????????????? A bunch???????????????? ;) Have to scale some day. Actually, have to talk to the mill guy. We're just grunts L. :)
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Re: Loggin in the MUCK

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:18 pm

There was a glut of white ash at the mills near here (American Bailey) when the word was put out to cut while the trees still had value. Don't hear much of anyone cutting ash even for firewood anymore. Guess they really thinned them out before the bugs got to them ???

We have some Chestnut farms in the area trying to naturally develop blight resistant strain. Some on State land, some private. Last time we walked the state land, it looks like it's going to work.

Paul
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Re: Loggin in the MUCK

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:13 pm

Great to hear somebody is bringin back chestnut--REAL pretty grain. Logs, I scaled yesterdays logs--approx. 5000 bd ft. with the 2 teams--muddier then all get out & a pretty good uphill grade.
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Re: Loggin in the MUCK

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:16 pm

Thanks for a most entertaining thread.
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Re: Loggin in the MUCK

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:38 pm

WHAT?????????? :stfu: Simon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap: toothy
coalnewbie wrote:Thanks for a most entertaining thread.
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Re: Loggin in the MUCK

PostBy: coalder On: Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:08 pm

Fred, those draft horses look like Belgians, but on a smaller scale. Are they Belgians or just "grade" draft horses? Years ago back in 1976 just married & living in a totally electric house & being a carpenters helper & realized the need for x-tra income. My Aunt, the wife of my uncle Al who won the silver star in Normandy, bordered my property with 30 acres. Realizing my debacle she allowed me to log her property & wanted no compensation. A local farmer boarded me on the East side & I grew up with him & we were & still are best of friends. His name is Kenny & his brother nicknamed "Smiley" . Well these guys are the epitome of " old fashioned farmers!! Up until 20 years they still used horses a whole lot. Anyway going back to 76 & the logging, Kenny said he had a horse that was exclusively used for logging by it's previous owner. SOOO off we go!!! Mainly white pine which was fetching $100.00 per thousand. Not bad for back then. Well I go in and cut and limb what I guesstimate to be 1K board ft & call Kenny. Well the next morning here comes Kenny with this withered old white draft horse that looked older than coal. I showed Ken my loading operation , which was a huge white oak with a leader that I had cabled up for reinforcement. Then we went back to surveil the logs. Kenny told me that this horse, once he learned the route, wouldn't need much guidance. Oh Hell what did I know at that age. Any way Kenny took the horse & told me to stay by the loading tree to catch the horse, while he did the choking. 10 minutes later here comes the horse & a good sized log. Well I'm here to tell ya that that old horse just came back to life, he was doing what he loved!! I stopped him under the tree, and unhooked him & sent him back to Kenny. After that it was redneck precision logging!! That old horse never faltered & wife & I survived the winter. Now the only things that remains are fond memories, & that huge white oak with the cable still on the leader. My God where did all the time go.
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Re: Loggin in the MUCK

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:05 pm

Jim, yep Belgium's they each go around 2000 lbs. -- big bulk/standard height. tough takin pix in the barn & from the road. My horses in Vt. could go to the landing themselves & come back-like you I just needed somebody to get the logs exactly where they needed to be &loose the logs.-We had to break so many different trails on this job--no could do. Horses do repetition real well--trail blazin with big ass logs, not so much. The horses safety is paramount.
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Re: Loggin in the MUCK

PostBy: Logs On: Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:12 pm

FF how far are you skidding these logs? And what is the average diameter and length ? The logs in the pictures look to be on the small side. ;)
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Re: Loggin in the MUCK

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:16 pm

16-24" BH--cutting most in to 10-12-14 footers. Gonna be a bit of firewood that someone will drag out. Anywhere from 50 yds to a 1/4 mile roughly.
Logs wrote:FF how far are you skidding these logs? And what is the average diameter and length ? The logs in the pictures look to be on the small side. ;)
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Re: Loggin in the MUCK

PostBy: KLook On: Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:39 pm

Great to see Fred, my grandfather had a big white draft horse. He was the only one in the area that would skid a dead deer...... ;) I never got any experience around farm animals and to this day do not like to be close to large animals. Still, I would like to see them work. Enjoyed watching the pulls at the Blue Hill Fair years ago.

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Re: Loggin in the MUCK

PostBy: Logs On: Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:47 pm

Thanks for the info Fred, sorry for asking so many questions but I find this very interesting. I wish I lived close by I would love to see this operation. 5000bf a day with two teams of horses, that's awesome !!!!! One more question if you don't mind. Are you skidding the logs tree length, or bucked to length? And can you skid more than one log at a time? Sorry that was 2 questions. :)

Dave
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Re: Loggin in the MUCK

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:15 pm

Tree length L, buckin em up on the landing--most are around 40 ft & up length wise. Most one at a time with this lot. Cant hook is getting a work-out!! :)
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Re: Loggin in the MUCK

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:28 pm

You just can't stay away from Horses and Sticks,Eh,Freddo ! Nice Thread ! toothy :up:
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Re: Loggin in the MUCK

PostBy: Logs On: Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:59 pm

Thanks Fred best thread yet :up: :clap: take more pictures if you get a chance, I know your busting your ass out there. Good work never hurt nobody :cheers:

Dave
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Re: Loggin in the MUCK

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:09 am

Any frost in the woods? I imagine the horses are a lot less disruptive to the landscape than a skidder. Also a lot quieter than those old Timberjacks with Detroits. :lol:

My dad was running a Cat skidder last fall - he said it was the meanest thing he had ever driven, and was a good job for young guy. They really throw you around if the ground is rough/frozen.

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