Kingwood Cast Iron Shaker Grates

Looking for some help identifying the attached stove and/or finding replacement shaker grates for this stove --- can't seem to find any information about this stove online and not having any luck with local vendors for parts. I've been told this model is similiar to a Clayton or US Stove doesanyone think grates from one of those models would work?

Those are similar but I don't think they are the same as the US stove grates. The US stove grates have 6 center holes where yours I see have 7. Could you get better measurement? The pic is a little blurry. I can measure one to see if they would fit.

I looked again, they are 5x12 inches?

Is that a boiler?

It is a boiler. It was suppose to be 5x24 one piece now broken in half

Is that a boiler?

I don't know what else that gauge sticking up out of the top is measuring.....

And those US Stoves are made just south of me in S. Pittsburg Tenn. I have been down there to a cornbread festival and they also make the Lodge cast iron cooking equipment there. There is an official US Stove store downtown Chattanooga. For the life of me, I don't understand all the big fireplace inserts and huge stoves I see in many houses here. You can heat a house with a candle on all but the coldest days.....

Kevin

Ha! he beat me back in....

Carl wrote:It is a boiler. It was suppose to be 5x24 one piece now broken in half

Oh okay, the US stove grates are 5.25 x 10.75. With two of them joined together the total length is about 23 inches where I see 24 inches on yours. The US stove grates connect in the middle but need a fastening mod to keep them tight so that there isn't slop between the front and back grate.

I have no idea if the US stove grates would fit right in your boiler. Might be close, but close only counts with horse shoes lol. You may have to replace the frames to fit the US stove grates which is getting pricey. Even then it's hard saying if the frames would fit the boiler. Maybe the best bet would be to have a foundry make a new grate for you. There are other guys on here that have had foundry work done, maybe they would chime in.

Depending on the supplier, sometimes it's cheaper to have the grates recast. There 's on online suppler that didn't have grates for my range, but, judging by the price of the ones that were very close in size, the Tomahawk foundry recasts I had made were cheaper. And they are excellent quality !!!! Tomahawk is very experienced at recasting coal stove grates. And broken ones like yours are very easy for them to deal with.

Looking at that broken grate I'd say Tomahawk could certainly make recasts of it.

However, I have questions that need to be considered.

Is that grate located by and pivot on the two end axles ? Is it a rocker type grate, or is it a push/pull type ?

Is it's a rocker type does it contact that wide, flat middle rib that looks like a support ?

If so, and it's a rocker type and the ends can't move up and down easily, I can see how during rocking it, that wide support would make it bend up in the middle. It will want to tip up on that wider edge and that will make the middle bend upward off the center line of the end axles. Even slight bending while it's hot will fatigue and eventually break it at the point, again.

If that's the case, you may want to grind a curve into that middle support and make the broken neck area between the two grates round and thicker to match the curve ground in that support, by building it up that neck area with Bondo. You can also use Bondo to add a bit of length to compensate for the 1/8 inch per foot that new cast iron shrinks when it cools after pouring into a mold. Then use that grate as the pattern for recasting new grates.

That modification will do two things to help. First, by being "fatter" at the neck it will strengthen that weakest area. Second by being round it will also turn that neck into an axle on the same centerline as the end axles. That will allow both grate sections to pivot on a common center line and work as one without flexing the center point upward as the grates are rocked back and forth.

You can get an estimate by emailing pix and measurements to Al at Tomahawk and get an idea of what it will cost. FYI, all his estimates for work I've had him do were slightly higher than the finished pieces actually cost me. And turn around time was surprisingly quick.

http://www.tomahawkfoundry.com/

Paul

Thanks for the information about the foundry I will reach out to them for sure.
The grate is a rocker type located in the framework by each end and supported in the center.
The center support portion is heavier and rounded it is hard to see in the picture but thank you for the suggestions I may try some slight changes before making the new one.