Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

PostBy: KingCoal On: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:12 pm

actually right beside the hearth.

T.O.M. is still idling along calmly 2 feet away with his nose in the air. put 20#'s in this morning at 0430 expect to shake it up at the same time tomorrow morning and let it burn out so i can make a swap just after noon.

i took very few pains with the C40. simply sealed up the doors and a few other places. cleaned it out real good and am going to hook it up and see what it does.

if i have the kind of experience widely reported by other members i'll probably keep it, though if i do it'll be completely torn down and reset this summer.

i'll get some pics up tomorrow night.

steve
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Re: Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

PostBy: Canaan coal man On: Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:22 pm

We're did you find a c40 out in your neck of the woods?
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Re: Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

PostBy: Pauliewog On: Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:42 am

Canaan coal man wrote:We're did you find a c40 out in your neck of the woods?


Sometimes you just have to jump in the truck and take a little road trip. :up: :out:

Paulie
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Re: Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

PostBy: KingCoal On: Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:48 am

Canaan coal man wrote:We're did you find a c40 out in your neck of the woods?


this has been a very real and frustrating issue for me for the last 3 yrs. one which i gave up on overcoming and turned instead to developing rough copies of the geometry of the originals.

in the end, the old saying proved itself, " they also serve those who stand at wait "

friendship, without expectation or demand of benefit returns in kind.

Paul, you know me well enough not to believe that i would call a 45 min. drive a road trip :lol: :lol:

steve
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Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
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Re: Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

PostBy: KingCoal On: Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:29 am

perfect forecast for hookin up a new BB.

this time i'll have just 2 MPD's in the stack, more as back up than true expectation.

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Hand Fed Coal Stove: 1- Warm Morning # 617A, 3-Locke Warm Morning #120, 1-Locke Warm Morning #524B
Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
Other Heating: none

Re: Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

PostBy: Pauliewog On: Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:33 pm

KingCoal wrote:
Paul, you know me well enough not to believe that i would call a 45 min. drive a road trip :lol: :lol:

steve



Just keeping the suspense alive until you post the pics. :D

You know the rules ......No pic.... It don't exist toothy :rofl:

Did you get a chance to try buffing the nickel with a different Rouge ?

Paulie
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Re: Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

PostBy: KingCoal On: Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:46 pm

didn't get to try any more buffing.

needed to get it hook up which it is and warming 5 ash shovels full of nut over the starter bed of match light right now.

i ended up with less room for my stove pipe and so had to go with just 1 MPD. i'll have to see how the draft is after i get more coal in the pot, nut in this stove may hold my flue back some. other wise i'll have to install another but probably not till summer unless it proves just too much.

going to edit some pics, i'll be back

steve
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Re: Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

PostBy: KingCoal On: Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:18 pm

here's a few early pics

have a full 20 #'s of nut in it now. running in BB with the MPD full closed, Mano. showing -.05 and slowly dropping, secondaries wide open, only primary being what is bypassing the shaker handle ( about what T.O.M. ran on )

current barrel hot spot 407, pipe at thimble 117. fire pot less than 1/3 full.
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as i said, didn't do much to make it pretty, probably only got a couple more weeks to burn
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: 1- Warm Morning # 617A, 3-Locke Warm Morning #120, 1-Locke Warm Morning #524B
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Re: Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

PostBy: scalabro On: Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:34 pm

Nice!

Over the summer though (if you decide to keep it), s-can the current exhaust and vent it out the top of the back pipe, please :D
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Re: Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

PostBy: dlj On: Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:11 pm

Congrats! Nice looking stove. It was also interesting to see the triopticus next to it in the fist pic. Is it really that much larger than the Crawford as it appears in the photo?

Can't wait to hear how it runs for you.

dj
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Re: Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

PostBy: KingCoal On: Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:13 pm

there are some very important design features to this stove that i'll go into in the next few days.

right now i'll simply report that this is a truly wonderful heater. currently at 489 at top of barrel. running 1/16" on the primary shutter, secondaries wide open in an attempt to wash some heat up the flue, and the check wide open and the mpd still shut. mano. down to -.035.

we have some wind here tonight so probably not fully accurate on the draft.

in the time i've been watching the President the top of the barrel has gone to 365, outstanding control and response.

more later,
steve
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Re: Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

PostBy: KingCoal On: Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:21 pm

dlj wrote:Congrats! Nice looking stove. It was also interesting to see the triopticus next to it in the fist pic. Is it really that much larger than the Crawford as it appears in the photo?

Can't wait to hear how it runs for you.

dj


yeah :oops: :roll: T.O.M. is BIG and has his likable manners. he cut my fuel use by a good bit.

the Crawford is sure to best him at that though and that by an appreciable margin.

right now the Crawford is proving all my councilors to have been VERY conservative in their claims. :D
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Re: Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

PostBy: joeq On: Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:08 am

I could see both your stoves smiling Steve, when the Pres said he was puttin the coal miners back to work. :D
Great lookin new stove. But how much less coal will the pot hold, compared to TOM?
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Re: Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

PostBy: KingCoal On: Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:57 am

scalabro wrote:Nice!

Over the summer though (if you decide to keep it), s-can the current exhaust and vent it out the top of the back pipe, please :D


i know this back pipe is wonky, the collars are off set from each other by half the diameter. can't imagine why that would have been done other than clearance at some time.

what would be so much better about straight out the top of the pipe ?

thanks,
steve
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Re: Crawford 40 waiting in the wings

PostBy: KingCoal On: Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:12 am

joeq wrote:I could see both your stoves smiling Steve, when the Pres said he was puttin the coal miners back to work. :D
Great lookin new stove. But how much less coal will the pot hold, compared to TOM?


by that time T.O.M. and FRANK were lurkin' around on the sun porch making plans for a jail break. :x

the Crawford is 1 c.f. of fire pot if just even with the load door threshold. so 50#'s of nut.

T.O.M. is 1.25 c.f. if not mounded in the center so 62.5 #'s

as of right now, after the first shake down and cruisin the blues again, i'm pretty sure the Crawford will never realize it has a handicap. :D

tonight i'll have a better idea how average tending will go. not much ash this morning and pretty much all of that was spent match light.

steve
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