Crawford 40 Waiting in the Wings
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actually right beside the hearth.
T.O.M. is still idling along calmly 2 feet away with his nose in the air. put 20#'s in this morning at 0430 expect to shake it up at the same time tomorrow morning and let it burn out so I can make a swap just after noon.
i took very few pains with the C40. simply sealed up the doors and a few other places. cleaned it out real good and am going to hook it up and see what it does.
if I have the kind of experience widely reported by other members i'll probably keep it, though if I do it'll be completely torn down and reset this summer.
i'll get some pics up tomorrow night.
steve
T.O.M. is still idling along calmly 2 feet away with his nose in the air. put 20#'s in this morning at 0430 expect to shake it up at the same time tomorrow morning and let it burn out so I can make a swap just after noon.
i took very few pains with the C40. simply sealed up the doors and a few other places. cleaned it out real good and am going to hook it up and see what it does.
if I have the kind of experience widely reported by other members i'll probably keep it, though if I do it'll be completely torn down and reset this summer.
i'll get some pics up tomorrow night.
steve
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We're did you find a c40 out in your neck of the woods?
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Sometimes you just have to jump in the truck and take a little road trip.Canaan coal man wrote:We're did you find a c40 out in your neck of the woods?
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this has been a very real and frustrating issue for me for the last 3 yrs. one which I gave up on overcoming and turned instead to developing rough copies of the geometry of the originals.Canaan coal man wrote:We're did you find a c40 out in your neck of the woods?
in the end, the old saying proved itself, " they also serve those who stand at wait "
friendship, without expectation or demand of benefit returns in kind.
Paul, you know me well enough not to believe that I would call a 45 min. drive a road trip
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perfect forecast for hookin up a new BB.
this time i'll have just 2 MPD's in the stack, more as back up than true expectation.
https://www.wunderground.com/us/in/goshen-municipal
this time i'll have just 2 MPD's in the stack, more as back up than true expectation.
https://www.wunderground.com/us/in/goshen-municipal
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Just keeping the suspense alive until you post the pics.KingCoal wrote:
Paul, you know me well enough not to believe that I would call a 45 min. drive a road trip
steve
You know the rules ......No pic.... It don't exist
Did you get a chance to try buffing the nickel with a different Rouge ?
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didn't get to try any more buffing.
needed to get it hook up which it is and warming 5 ash shovels full of nut over the starter bed of match light right now.
i ended up with less room for my stove pipe and so had to go with just 1 MPD. i'll have to see how the draft is after I get more coal in the pot, nut in this stove may hold my flue back some. other wise i'll have to install another but probably not till summer unless it proves just too much.
going to edit some pics, i'll be back
steve
needed to get it hook up which it is and warming 5 ash shovels full of nut over the starter bed of match light right now.
i ended up with less room for my stove pipe and so had to go with just 1 MPD. i'll have to see how the draft is after I get more coal in the pot, nut in this stove may hold my flue back some. other wise i'll have to install another but probably not till summer unless it proves just too much.
going to edit some pics, i'll be back
steve
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here's a few early pics
have a full 20 #'s of nut in it now. running in BB with the MPD full closed, Mano. showing -.05 and slowly dropping, secondaries wide open, only primary being what is bypassing the shaker handle ( about what T.O.M. ran on )
current barrel hot spot 407, pipe at thimble 117. fire pot less than 1/3 full.
have a full 20 #'s of nut in it now. running in BB with the MPD full closed, Mano. showing -.05 and slowly dropping, secondaries wide open, only primary being what is bypassing the shaker handle ( about what T.O.M. ran on )
current barrel hot spot 407, pipe at thimble 117. fire pot less than 1/3 full.
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Nice!
Over the summer though (if you decide to keep it), s-can the current exhaust and vent it out the top of the back pipe, please
Over the summer though (if you decide to keep it), s-can the current exhaust and vent it out the top of the back pipe, please
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Congrats! Nice looking stove. It was also interesting to see the triopticus next to it in the fist pic. Is it really that much larger than the Crawford as it appears in the photo?
Can't wait to hear how it runs for you.
dj
Can't wait to hear how it runs for you.
dj
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there are some very important design features to this stove that i'll go into in the next few days.
right now i'll simply report that this is a truly wonderful heater. currently at 489 at top of barrel. running 1/16" on the primary shutter, secondaries wide open in an attempt to wash some heat up the flue, and the check wide open and the mpd still shut. mano. down to -.035.
we have some wind here tonight so probably not fully accurate on the draft.
in the time I've been watching the President the top of the barrel has gone to 365, outstanding control and response.
more later,
steve
right now i'll simply report that this is a truly wonderful heater. currently at 489 at top of barrel. running 1/16" on the primary shutter, secondaries wide open in an attempt to wash some heat up the flue, and the check wide open and the mpd still shut. mano. down to -.035.
we have some wind here tonight so probably not fully accurate on the draft.
in the time I've been watching the President the top of the barrel has gone to 365, outstanding control and response.
more later,
steve
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yeah T.O.M. is BIG and has his likable manners. he cut my fuel use by a good bit.dlj wrote:Congrats! Nice looking stove. It was also interesting to see the triopticus next to it in the fist pic. Is it really that much larger than the Crawford as it appears in the photo?
Can't wait to hear how it runs for you.
dj
the Crawford is sure to best him at that though and that by an appreciable margin.
right now the Crawford is proving all my councilors to have been VERY conservative in their claims.
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I could see both your stoves smiling Steve, when the Pres said he was puttin the coal miners back to work.
Great lookin new stove. But how much less coal will the pot hold, compared to TOM?
Great lookin new stove. But how much less coal will the pot hold, compared to TOM?
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i know this back pipe is wonky, the collars are off set from each other by half the diameter. can't imagine why that would have been done other than clearance at some time.scalabro wrote:Nice!
Over the summer though (if you decide to keep it), s-can the current exhaust and vent it out the top of the back pipe, please
what would be so much better about straight out the top of the pipe ?
thanks,
steve
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by that time T.O.M. and FRANK were lurkin' around on the sun porch making plans for a jail break.joeq wrote:I could see both your stoves smiling Steve, when the Pres said he was puttin the coal miners back to work.
Great lookin new stove. But how much less coal will the pot hold, compared to TOM?
the Crawford is 1 c.f. of fire pot if just even with the load door threshold. so 50#'s of nut.
T.O.M. is 1.25 c.f. if not mounded in the center so 62.5 #'s
as of right now, after the first shake down and cruisin the blues again, i'm pretty sure the Crawford will never realize it has a handicap.
tonight i'll have a better idea how average tending will go. not much ash this morning and pretty much all of that was spent match light.
steve